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Re: Niylah - she had already been shown earlier this season to be entirely Team Blodreina. She was willing to kill Madi when she realized Madi was a true Nightblood, so that there would be no chance Madi could challenge Octavia's rule. So it makes sense that she was still trying to keep Madi from taking the Flame, she just happened to be on the same side as Clarke this time. The "true believers have all the guns" was in reference to the ones gathering for the Ascension, in other words they were the ones wanting Madi to become Commander. __________________
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I do think that we're going to see some major scenes in regards to Abby and Clarke going forward, but I totally agree that their mutual lack of dialogue regarding the other has been weird.
I don't think it was really intentional on the writers part, it just seems like it was something that was kind of forgotten in all the chaos. Also in regards to some of you saying that the writing of character dynamics this season has been inconsistent, I have to agree. With the combination of the 6 year time jump and a few new writers, I think a lot of the dynamics of characters and their respective development kind of fell flat. It also doesn't help that no one is really talking about anything, so it's hard to really get into their heads at times. This is why I usually hate time jumps in shows. I get the necessity in regards to "plot", but it's rare for them to be executed in a way that feels natural. That being said, I'm very excited for the last 4 episodes! We're finally at the point after the drop in the rollercoaster (dangit Jason...that was actually kind of clever) so it's full speed ahead! |
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And the reason it was one big paragraph FYI is because it was a youtube comment and I just copy and pasted it. But honestly, its not that long??? I'm sorry but I'd still call Clarke selfish. Just because shes doing something for someone else doesnt make it not selfish. No one is naive to think the last episodes wont shake everything up and turn things around. I just think, it doesn't matter what they do at this point, its gonna feel stupid. Ive been saying it all season too, not just now after this one. I cant stand the constant back and forth between the characters. You cant keep up with who is upset with who from week to week. I just wish there was more consistency with alliances and friendships etc. Quote:
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Maybe the Clarke/Abby bonding will happen in the last half. I am dead curious to find out what the hell she could possibly have to say to her. I dont put a lot of stock into what Eliza says, tbh. Quote:
I just hope the bad decision making is over. Isn't the next episode the dark year one, or is it 11? Is that one going to be purely the bunker like 502? |
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I agree that Bellamy is seeing the bigger picture this season more so than Clarke. This is a role reversal for them, which is interesting I guess, but it bugs me how Clarke's new perspective is pinned on her becoming a "mama bear." As a mother myself, I understand how one's kids become the highest priority, but being a parent doesn't have to mean that becomes the ONLY priority. Nor does it make a person abandon any other values or principles (I didn't start murdering people left and right after my daughter was born!). Indra's a mom, and she cares deeply about Gaia, but she cares about other things too, doesn't abandon her values or her awareness of the bigger picture to just protect her daughter. And man is she amazing this season! |
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Marie is amazing but yeah, I'm not a fan of that growling tone (especially paired with the thick makeup) ... but if it's supposed to be ominous and telling of the physical and mental change in Octavia, I guess that does the trick. Quote:
Good point about Indra and her as a mother ... Indra has been simply amazing this season. I used to dislike her a LOT in season 2 but I've grown to love her over the course of the seasons. Of course, it can be argued that Clarke only had Madi whereas Gaia was never truly that close to Indra (it seems) and Indra has other priorities both on the Ground and in the bunker, apart from her role as a mother. __________________
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I just hate that Clarke's entire personality this season is just about her being a mom now. Quote:
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The lack of communication is starting to turn everything into idiot plots. Like why didn't Kane talk to Spacekru about what he was doing with Diyoza? Is there some reason why he wouldn't have wanted to speak with Echo and Raven for all that time they were sitting in that room with shock collars on? Diyoza said that other defectors were helping Kane prepare their whole town square thing in that field of flowers, didn't she? So if Kane has access to the defectors, then he could have just met up with Raven and Echo and told them about what was happening. Maybe they could have worked together. Isn't that what Kane wanted? Instead he leaves them in the dark and they screwed everything up in their ignorance. |
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Of course shes feeling betrayed but shes been betrayed before. They all have. They are forcing each other to kill each other. Octavia is essentially murdering them. But I guess I expect this after she killed Pike at the end of season 2, Im surprised it actually took her this long to turn this dark. And again its not even necessarily what Octavia does (though I cant stand any decision shes made this season) its all about her demeanor and how she carries herself. People can be villains and make dumb decisions but either they started out as a villain so its no love lost for me, OR they made decisions that I could sort of understand from their POV. But with Octavia, I just dont. |
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I just wanted to add a quick thought it regards to Clarke's motherhood plot line this season.
To be clear, I think both Bellamy and Clarke went about things the wrong way in 5x09, so this isn't a defensive post. I feel like part of the reason why Clarke is falling flat for some people this season is because we're used to her being front and center when it comes to conflict. She's been the leader, the one to shoulder the burden, the one to make the tough decisions (not always the right ones of course), so to see her be on the sidelines isn't natural, and I don't think it's supposed to be. As for her actions regarding Madi last episode, I don't really see it as just being because of her "mama bear" role. For the past 6 years, this little girl has been all she's had. She's had no family, no friends, no actual other adults to communicate with. Just Madi. So it makes perfect sense to me that she's is almost obsessive in her protection of her. Is it healthy, logical or even right? Of course not! But add her isolation over the past 6 years to the isolation she's felt since everyone returned to the ground/surface, and it made it easier for me to understand her motivations. |
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Sounds good. See you there or already seeing you there. |
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