ElenaBelle

^Possibly. In the promo Stefan is talking on the phone about not taking the cure but I doubt they'd spoil something dramatic like that in a preview clip. Or he could be talking to Enzo about Lily.

E.T.A So I saw the screencaps and I also think he's calling Caroline.

Marshall41990

Yeah, it seems like he's calling someone, and trying to get a hold of them. So, I'm suspecting it's Caroline, as well.

Telepath

Can you link the pictures?

ElenaBelle

Emsea

I think he's calling Caroline too.

When Stefan offered to mail her letter she made a point to say she was still working on it wanting it to be perfect too. We don't know what Caroline did with all her stuff from the house but maybe she'll find a draft of the letter.

I think Caroline is going to have to get some kind of closure. I would like it to be something other than Stefan or her friends just telling her she knows her mom loved her.

ElenaBelle

^Yeah. Caroline knows her mom loved her so I'd like something else. I was so focused on how I had a feeling Liz knew his feelings already in 6x14 that I didn't think much of 6x15 but now that you mention it I get why you have a problem. He was too confident in the flashback vs him not even being able to explain how he felt in 6x15. But weirdly 6x15 was the first episode in season 6 that made Stefan's feelings completely clear to me and made me optimistic. They probably could have written it better. I think they wanted Stefan's confusion to be about love that comes quickly vs love that builds up over time but didn't convey the message properly.

vanycutrim

^ I was confused about that too. But maybe in 6x15 he was just afraid to rush things and thought it wasn't the right time for them and then Damon gave him that advice, so he starts questioning what he was feeling for her, because he never felt this kind of love. I don't know, I guess the writers could have explained better in 6x15.

But anyway I loved 6x19 so much! I can't stop watching their scenes!

petrova

I think stefan's on the phone or trying to get a hold of caroline shes not in 6x20 but I think his phone call is what brings her back in 6x21 from where ever she went

they need to mention her in one way or another so this is how they will do it he looks like his smiling in way

You can't kill me!

Possibly...

I feel so bad for Stefan.. he has his own guilt to deal with, he is probably trying to make sure Caroline knows she has people who love her even if she did go evil for a bit, and he has to deal with DE and whatever the hell is going on with that cure. Not to mention his scary mother who he thought was dead but is now alive and wants to bring some very bad people to his hometown... Stefan needs a goddamn vacation away from all this crazy sht Maybe he and Caroline can leave for a vacation at the end of the finale

Emsea

Thank you for saying this because I felt like such a bad Steroline fan for mentioning it.

Yes exactly to what you said. Since episode 7 when Stefan found out about Caroline's feelings...up to episode 14, I feel like you do about how Stefan was showing more romantic feelings - the looks, the touches, devoting himself to her...I really thought a kiss was going to happen in that moment in the woods in ep 13 too. I felt Stefan was getting bolder (phone in pocket ) and opening himself up to love again. I really feel that his question to Caroline in ep 7 about why she had a thing for him was more about his insecurities of having lost Elena to Damon and that struggle. That's when I felt like the conversation at the end of episode 15 should have happened soon after that episode. So when Stefan initiated the kiss in ep 14, I felt he had finally embraced his romantic feelings for her. And then episode 15 happened and he was so uncertain that he was wiling to accept Damon's advice to stop it. And it took listening to Damon's eulogy about how amazing Caroline was (which out of everyone Stefan as her best friend should already know ) to make the decision that pursuing something more with Caroline was worth it. I'm glad also we got clarity of Stefan's feelings but that episode has been an obstacle for me with the writing of his feelings. Then in the next episode Stefan tells Caroline that the reason why he didn't tell her in ep 15 was because he was afraid of the feelings he had for her and had to push them away. And then three episodes later we have a ep 13 flashback where the only issue Stefan had with starting a relationship with Caroline was the timing and that he would be patient for the perfect timing. I get that the writers are using Stefan's feelings to suit their means for the SL in each episode but I just feel they have been manipulating the flow of his feelings over the season to do it and it just bugs me. It bugs me that he didn't bring up his relationship with Elena until it suited the SL in ep 15. Or in ep 16 when he was pushing those feelings away because he obviously wasn't in the prior episodes.

Tho I do think the flashback makes sense as part of the flow up to that point in ep 13. I agree with you about how it ties in to Liz's statement to Caroline in ep 14. I think the writers are bringing the point up of Stefan's feelings because it's going to play a role in the upcoming episodes regarding Steroline's feelings for each other. It reinforces that Stefan wants to pursue a relationship with her and has those feelings for her. That part wasn't necessary because Caroline could have turned her humanity back on based on the letter in the flashback alone. But episodes 15/16 will always bug me because of how the writers wrote Stefan's feelings mainly to suit the SL in those particular episode than what they were telling us in all the previous episodes.

Happier thought: I'm loving that Liz has been consistently giving her blessing to a romantic relationship for SC because I think that means good things coming up for us.

petrova

even with all the guilt he has hes thinking of caroline and wanting her to be ok
stefan deserve some happiness for once hes always the one who gets the bad when hes such a good guy like say what julie plec come on stefan and caroline need to run and hind away alone somewhere thats so true get away from all this bad ***** they use to have so much fun

you posted me how cool

by the way your icons stelena who do you ship

Emsea

I totally agree! The man about died trying to bring Caroline back. He never gets a break...that's why after this season I better see him happy for at least a little while.

You can't kill me!

My icon is from season 3 and I will always love SE seasons 1 to 3 At this point in the series I am in total support of an SC relationship I would not want Stefan to go back to Elena at all

Stefan feelings are not the only inconsistency in this show.. so him saying what he did to Liz in the flashback didn't phase me at all. There have been major retcons in this show before.. it's just par for the course with this show

^ Exactly.. I just want this finale to end happily for Stefan.. the last few finales have beat the ever loving crap out of him and that is not cool

petrova

he always gets the bad end of the deal hes deserves to be happy and he better get it or there will be war

Emsea

Ultimatecandice I agree

Oh absolutely. It's one of MANY retcons and inconsistencies with the show.

I hope so too. I hope that whatever will be the cliffhanger for the season it won't involve SC. But since he filmed some of the last scenes with Lily, Enzo, and Caroline I'm doubting it.