firstimeshipper

Yes Carlisle has been conspicuous by his absence - he does not seem the kind of man to gracefully bow out

I have said this earlier - will the Pamuk scandal really matter after 6 years and a world war thrown in between? I mean who cares - England has so many other things to worry about. But anyway, thats just my opinion

I hope Carlisle is implicated in Vera's death ( I don't want him to be guilty - but just implicated-enough for Mathew to finally do some rescuing of Mary )

LuvLuke

What's the tumblrs? Is there a link? Thanks!

firstimeshipper

downton abbey | Tumblr

I am sure you already know

This is the main one that I follow - has a lot of good Gifs and videos- and a lot of S/B stuff that I ignore. But generally there is some good speculation here too

mmshipper

I have seen this link and I go to digital spy forum for information from time to time. A lot of people have been commenting negatively about M/M, which I don't understand, just like I don't understand why people are so excited about S/B...

mmshipper

That will work for me too. I don't care about the cause, as long as Carlisie is gone at the end.

sugarhaven

Nothing against living in the fantasy land, but you know, we are talking about DA? The same place where it takes 5 years and 1,637 garage scenes to have a two-second long kiss. I think it's much more likely that we'll find out that Edith and Anna were switched at birth, Mrs. Patmore is a Russian spy, Isobel and Matthew are impostors, Robert is a ghost and Thomas has discovered the magic cure for the Spanish flu.

mmshipper

LOL。I'd love more storyline around Mrs. Patmore though.

LuvLuke

Thanks!

LuvLuke

Yeah, I started at the digital spy forums but it was taken over by a group of S/B fanatics who love to bash M/M. Those kinds who bash M/M are seeing the world through a very weird set of glasses--so glad to be away from them! THIS is the place to be!

jules166

Another reason why I think

firstimeshipper

I hate bashing other people's ships but it is quite amazing how many people ship s/b - I mean even by the virtue of screen time they are not the "hero" and "heroine" of the series. Mathew and Mary angst has been present from the moment they met - aren't they like "the couple to watch" out for in the show. Mary is also the most complex character in the show IMO - Sybil has only had some character dev. in series 2.
I am quite surprised that apart from this thread there is not a lot of M/M stuff out there. I can understand when people say they don't ship M/M - to each his own- but to claim to be bored by it is something beyond me.

firstimeshipper

this is the second time you have cracked me up today - you should totally write the script for DA - it needs some sunshine

firstimeshipper

mmshipper

That is a brilliant catch...

sugarhaven

I read some of the comments there and I have to agree with you. I love M/M but they're not the main (or at least only) reason why I watch DA. I love most of the characters and love to discuss them with people who have different ideas and opinions. I don't mind if someone bashes Mary and Matthew from time to time (they are flawed after all) or is not fond of them in particular. It's great to see the scenes from all sorts of angles but I feel like people on the Digital Spy are watching a completely different show than I am. You'd think that Sybil and Branson are the flawless main protagonists and their earth-shattering forbidden love creates the central drama. Mary's some kind of an evil witch whose main life purpose is to destroy everybody else's happiness and who at best deserves to be tied down to an abusive creep for the rest of her life.

I like that DA assumes that their audience is smart and understands that even though we don't see something on screen (e.g. Matthew fighting in the war) it doesn't mean it isn't happening. It's fun to speculate and fill the blanks for all those unseen moments but the people on the Digital Spy in my opinion just live from these off-screen imaginary S/B scenes and completely dismiss what is happening in canon.