[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) It depends on the circumstances. I am better at negotiations so it might be easier for me to get something than I want compared to my ex boss. That might not always be in favor of the French . On the other hand I sometimes agree with them and in that case it will be in their favor.

Figured it’s about what benefits them the most, lol.

The way he had written the email it's basically either because of slow infrastructure or because of the database structure of the other team. I am curious to see if he will get some answer back.

Got it.

The one where we talk about the separation and we agree on ways to communicate between each other and work with each other. So basically we will all be on the same page as far as the separation goes.

Oh cool. Is the meeting this morning or afternoon? Who all will be attending? Hope it goes smoothly.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) I am the same way . It's normal, but like I said it's not up to them anyway .

True.

Thanks ! Morning. It's from 10:30 to 12:00 so early in the day .

Cool! Let me know how it goes.

You can't sleep again? What is bothering you?

Can’t sleep is right. GI is sensitive. This pelvic dysfunction stuff is kicking my a$$. I’m sensitive to everything, bloated, etc.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) Thanks ! I will! ! Any idea on how to improve this?

Not without a specialist most probably and physical therapy. This is all the result of the hysterectomy. Horrible surgery with lasting effects. Oh well.

Have the meeting yet?

[Jerry D]

I'm sorry that you didn't sleep well Michelle.

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) How often does he stop you shortly before you are ready to leave?

It varies, but at least one or two days a week.

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) Me too! How long has she been working there?

This is her 6th week there now.

[Jerry D]

Good for you Koni! Congratulations!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) I'm sorry that you didn't sleep well Michelle. It varies, but at least one or two days a week. This is her 6th week there now.

Thanks. I slept for a few hours and just got up now.

Wow, how annoying he bothers you that muck weekly.

Teresa has been there for a nice amount of time. I hope it continues!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) This sucks. Do you want to visit a specialist for this? The meeting did happen and finally they know that the team will be separated and I will lead my own team. Of course the ex boss said something like "We have heard rumors that the team will be separated" and I do not remember who confirmed it for them. Then my ex boss asked when it will happen and I told him that I was told that it will be effective from 15 March. Then the ex boss complained that he has a lot of work because other people in the team do not want to do something. I asked him if he had asked them and the jerk was like "They have not said anything". I told them that if they see that 5 people do not do something they should ask those people why they are not doing what they are supposed to do. I told them that I want strategy on short/long term solutions and I will talk to the correct people to work on this. The jerk was like "If Koni wants this so much why don't you make her do this" and the manager was like "I guarantee you that she will do it by 3 PM today but would this make you feel better". In the end I told them that the goal is to completely separate my product from them and to let it live as it is.

That's wonderful! Congratulations! It's unbelievable that they only officially understood what was going on today but good that they know now and I bet they're totally shocked. It's hilarious your ex-boss feels like he has a right to complain even more. It only reflects back to him indicating he is the problem. He doesn't realize as much and neither does the jerk.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) The CTO honestly does not even want to keep them anymore. He was pretty pissed. I was not surprised that it went like that. I mean my ex boss basically said that he is overloaded with work and the people in the team are free in an attempt to explain why he does not have time to work on something. I am not sure how he thought that someone would feel sorry for him. It's his job to train people and coordinate the work so that the team is busy and is working efficiently.

I'm shocked ex-boss and jerk weren't fired. They deserve to be fired.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) The CTO wants them fired actually. The manager wants to try still, but it seems that he is not that happy with them either.

They are so the problem. You succeeded in exposing them, getting away from them and your group will 100% have success. But for those who are stuck with the ex-boss and jerk, they will be screwed and that entire group will not work out in the long run either. The ex-boss and jerk need to go!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) The CTO is willing to fire the ex boss and the jerk and even the architect and hire new people in their places or find someone from France to do this. He is fed up with them. I understand him. They only know to blame others. They do not want to accept their mistakes.

Will it ever happen?

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) I am working on replacing them with other people at least when it comes to my product. Germans do not plan to use the other projects for the future so at some point they might become obsolete anyway.

You are doing everything you can do. It's just too bad that they don't receive their walking papers. They are useless, taking money in salary away from people who could do a way better job professionally. Hopefully in time they will be gone or severely diminished in their duties.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by secretk (View Post) I think that this is a good starting point. I have the support of the people that matter. Now it's a matter of time for them to let down even more the management. In the meantime I want to focus on doing the best we can as a team to be efficient.

Yes, you’re in a good position now. Of course you know me... I’m all about group harmony. So hopefully the offenders (jerk and ex-box) will be singled out and removed from their jobs in the future. But for now things have moved at least and the situation will improve greatly for those who are away from them.

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) Thanks. I slept for a few hours and just got up now.

I hope that you can sleep better tonight.

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) Wow, how annoying he bothers you that muck weekly.

I had to get a bid out today and I wanted him to take a look at it before I sent it because he's so anal about everything, but he kept putting me off so I sent the bid, and he called me up to criticize it. Needless to say, I'm not a happy camper. He's the worst combination of a micro-manager and a procrastinator.

Originally Posted by The Apt (View Post) Teresa has been there for a nice amount of time. I hope it continues!

Thanks! So do we!

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) I hope that you can sleep better tonight.

Thank you!

I had to get a bid out today and I wanted him to take a look at it before I sent it because he's so anal about everything, but he kept putting me off so I sent the bid, and he called me up to criticize it. Needless to say, I'm not a happy camper. He's the worst combination of a micro-manager and a procrastinator.

What a prick! I can't believe him! Well, yes, I can but does he not realize he kept delaying and you had to send the bid? Wow, he's a monster.

Thanks! So do we!

[Jerry D]

Thanks Michelle.

I just get so tired of it all.