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Old 07-17-2016, 01:15 PM
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Thanks for the new thread - and I LOVE the title. It seems especially........prophetic?
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Thanks for the new thread! Great title And true.. It does seem prophetic.

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I'm loving reading everyone's ideas/hopes! RumBelle had been fighting a lot right before the sleeping curse, so I'm hoping Morpheus helps them reconcile and is key in helping Belle awaken but I am worried that Morpheus may be either in league with Hyde or being blackmailed/controlled somehow and will further separate them from each other

but never fear, I have complete faith they will find their way back to each other, no matter what happens!
My fear is that Morpheus is going to feed Belle's insecurities about Rumple (purposely or unintentionally) and she will be even more distrustful of him when she wakes up. But I'm trying remain positive..

I was thinking, maybe the point of Rumple possibly going to see Belle in the world of dreams is that they would be able to communicate with each other and eventually share a TLK there, thus break the sleeping curse that way? I mean, the show made such a big deal about TLK being the only way to break a sleeping curse in 5x18 (and so far every sleeping curse in OUAT has been broken with TLK). Would they really break the rule just a few episodes later? And this Morpheus/World Of Dreams storyline does sound like it could take more than one episode to play out..
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I'm really not worried about Morpheus........what would the point of this story be, for him to feed into Belle's insecurities about Rumple and her own "darkness"? As far as I'm concerned, he's a positive force; I'm sure he has an agenda, but that doesn't mean it's a bad one........He would have absolutely nothing to gain by screwing Belle and Rumbelle.

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I was thinking, maybe the point of Rumple possibly going to see Belle in the world of dreams is that they would be able to communicate with each other and eventually share a TLK there, thus break the sleeping curse that way? I mean, the show made such a big deal about TLK being the only way to break a sleeping curse in 5x18 (and so far every sleeping curse in OUAT has been broken with TLK). Would they really break the rule just a few episodes later? And this Morpheus/World Of Dreams storyline does sound like it could take more than one episode to play out..
I personally don't see that. The reason why Rumbelle TLK didn't work is probably (as I see it) because there were complicated feelings there - not that they weren't TL, but between Rumple not believing himself capable of it and Belle being afraid she wasn't his TL, well, it fuzzies everything up (the other sleeping curse TLK were straightforward affairs). It's similar, I think, to why Rumple couldn't see that he and Belle would fall in love = the emotions got in the way of his seeing the future. In this way, emotions other than love got in the way......just a theory.

I think TLK is going to be saved for when Rumple chooses truly to reject the curse - later this season perhaps. I actually don't want TLK now - and I think that Rumple working this desperately to wake her proves his love just as much as any TLK.

I DO agree that this will take 2/3 episodes at least to play out, preferably more.
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Yes, I do know that there are unresolved issues between Rumple and Belle. I just meant that maybe Morpheus simply a way for them to communicate so that they would be able to deal with those issues in the world of dreams and in the end have a TLK that breaks the sleeping curse (Yes, Rumple probably assumes that Morpheus is able to wake Belle with a snap of his fingers or something, but maybe it will turn out to be more complicated than that). Because it just seems ridiculous that first they explicitly state that TLK is the only way to break the sleeping curse, and then they negate that just a few episodes later. Then again, I guess it wouldn't be the first time they've done something like that, so maybe I'm just being too optimistic..
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Yes, I do know that there are unresolved issues between Rumple and Belle. I just meant that maybe Morpheus simply a way for them to communicate so that they would be able to deal with those issues in the world of dreams and in the end have a TLK that breaks the sleeping curse (Yes, Rumple probably assumes that Morpheus is able to wake Belle with a snap of his fingers or something, but maybe it will turn out to be more complicated than that). Because it just seems ridiculous that first they explicitly state that TLK is the only way to break the sleeping curse, and then they negate that just a few episodes later. Then again, I guess it wouldn't be the first time they've done something like that, so maybe I'm just being too optimistic..
I know what you said, but like I said below, I believe TLK will be saved for when Rumple is truly ready to reject the curse. I don't see a TLK happening now, nor do I have an issue with it for the reasons I gave. It's not ridiculous to me - but that's fine that we disagree; not a big deal.

Are you suggesting that waking Belle outside of a TLK would be a bad thing ? If so, I see it differently. I think that Rumple working this desperately to wake Belle proves his love just as much as any TLK. This doesn’t mean I don’t want a TLK down the line (when he’s truly ready to reject the curse); it just means that there is more than one way to prove enduring love and devotion. If Belle wakes due to Rumple's efforts, I'll be ecstatic....
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I am glad I thought of that line.

Adam and Eddie did hint that Belle would put her wedding ring back on when Rumple wins her back so maybe Rumple seeing her in dreams will be his way to win her back along with everything he is doing to awaken her. The only way they can resolve these doubts is to talk to each other and I think Morpheus, who may or may not have a bad agenda is a likely conduit for Rumbelle in resolving their problems. Whether or not tlk is used doesn't really matter to me either way because imo, Rumbelle have more than proven their true love. Rumple and Belle just need to overcome their insecurities and doubts in order to awaken Belle.
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I'm just looking forward to this mini-arc....; I think it's going to be fabulous! Belle's dreams are going to allow us to see so many things that we ordinarily wouldn't be able to - the possibilities are endless!

I'm intrigued by Adam and Eddy saying that we'd get more mini arcs in S6 rather than one HUGE, overriding arc. That might mean that the "Rumple waking Belle" arc will extend for about 5 or 6 episodes. Hopefully their next mini-arc involves Rumbelle going on an adventure!
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was thinking, maybe the point of Rumple possibly going to see Belle in the world of dreams is that they would be able to communicate with each other and eventually share a TLK there, thus break the sleeping curse that way? I mean, the show made such a big deal about TLK being the only way to break a sleeping curse in 5x18 (and so far every sleeping curse in OUAT has been broken with TLK). Would they really break the rule just a few episodes later? And this Morpheus/World Of Dreams storyline does sound like it could take more than one episode to play out..
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I've had that thought, that they would share a TLK in their dreams and that would enable Belle to wake up but he would still retain his power.

But I agree with Betsy in that I don't see them having a TLK that would break his power until the very end of the show.

And yay for Sarah telling us they're filming today!!
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If they did share a TLK in their dreams, oh my THE FEELS of that

I'm not that worried about Morpheus as Rumple will kick his butt if anything happens to Belle

Hope we get a little bit of info today

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Thanks for the new thread - and I LOVE the title. It seems especially........prophetic?
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I've had that thought, that they would share a TLK in their dreams and that would enable Belle to wake up but he would still retain his power.

But I agree with Betsy in that I don't see them having a TLK that would break his power until the very end of the show.

And yay for Sarah telling us they're filming today!!
Well I never said the end of the show........ I think very possibly the end of S6, whether that is the end or not
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I've had that thought, that they would share a TLK in their dreams and that would enable Belle to wake up but he would still retain his power.

But I agree with Betsy in that I don't see them having a TLK that would break his power until the very end of the show.

And yay for Sarah telling us they're filming today!!
Yeah, that's what I meant. A TLK that would wake them up but not break the DO-curse. It's the world of dreams so I guess anything is possible. And I agree, I don't think Rumple will stop being the DO until the end of the show.

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Are you suggesting that waking Belle outside of a TLK would be a bad thing?
It is a bad thing in a sense that, once again, they've set up a rule only to break it later. It's getting ridiculous. "TLK is the only way to break a sleeping curse - Except when it comes to Rumbelle". Otherwise it doesn't bother me.
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I think they feel there is no story for Rumple without him being the DO, so yeah, I definitely believe he won't be fully done with the curse, if ever, until the very last episode of the series. I don't think Rumple will fully reject the curse until then.

They want him being the DO, imo. So we'll have to see what happens. I kind of doubt we'll get filming photos today but it's still nice to know they're filming together.
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I agree, I'm not.excluding TLK but definitely one that makes him.lose the curse or instantly turns his curse into light magic or whatever.

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I'm not that worried about Morpheus as Rumple will kick his butt if anything happens to Belle
Basically or Belle will do it herself once awake. But so think he'll be someone like the Arthur, someone with his bad own plans but not a real threat.

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It is a bad thing in a sense that, once again, they've set up a rule only to break it later. It's getting ridiculous. "TLK is the only way to break a sleeping curse - Except when it comes to Rumbelle". Otherwise it doesn't bother me.
Same. "TLk can break any curse...except memory loss, sorry, use Blue's potion instead.....oh also except for when someone needs to break the DO curse or die, lets not risk a kiss to save his life and avoid all 5A problems....except for sleeping curse if Rumple or Belle are asleep, lets find a mushroom instead" it's really getting old

And thanks for the new thread!
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Same. "TLk can break any curse...except memory loss, sorry, use Blue's potion instead.....oh also except for when someone needs to break the DO curse or die, lets not risk a kiss to save his life and avoid all 5A problems....except for sleeping curse if Rumple or Belle are asleep, lets find a mushroom instead" it's really getting old
It is , we have to have TLK for Rumbelle, preferably in S6, they can still have Rumple with magic, just it will be light...
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