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6.18 | – Where Bluebirds Fly – | Airdate: 4/23/17 at 8pm EST

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“When we started talking about the musical, we wanted it to be a special episode,” executive producer Edward Kitsis says. “We thought Emma’s wedding felt like the natural milestone for us.”

Adds executive producer Adam Horowitz: “It felt like the right place. Hopefully, when you see how the device works within the episode and how it relates to Emma and her character journey, it all seems to make sense that it would lead up to this. It worked on both a plot and character level, and it allowed us the fun of actually doing a musical episode.”

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Okay, this can just be pure speculation so I would take it with a grain of salt. And I was also curious if anybody else came across this possible theory about a filmed finale scene? I was on a Lana Parrilla fan page on FB where some spoiler pics were posted. I believe they are from the finale - Emma is in her usual attire, hat, jeans, boots, red jacket etc. Regina is wearing what appears to be a cranberry colored suit ensemble? Anyway, the discussion was about I believe Gideon fights Emma again in the finale (ie. Black Fairy still has control of his heart) but Regina & Emma come up with a plan for Regina to magically glamour into Emma, fight Gideon, and she might die in Emma's place? So what, Emma was really seeing Regina's death the whole time, not her own? Shocking. There is a confirmed death for the finale. Up until now, I was leaning more towards Rumple but that bait & switch theory seems pretty plausible to me. Regina can sword fight. She practically has nothing left, she redeemed herself, there's no Robin, and Henry is almost grown and will have Hook & Emma because CS are getting married. Even if Robert Carlyle doesn't return for a possible s7, they might just write his character off with Belle to give them a HE. I get that this show should just end, Lana deserves better, Regina has been written into this boring supporting role but I'm still going to roll my eyes if this plays out like this. Another poster and I discussed this at length just after s5 ended and we got into lengthy discussion on the main OUAT board about them killing Regina off by series end, and dun dun ... sacrificing herself for Emma. After all the crappy bad tragic & depressing writing for Regina, it made sense. Why would they keep Robin Hood around for a HE when they planned to kill the former EQ off all along. They have nothing left to write for Regina in a s7 that is why I did consider that Lana is one of the actors out if there isn't a cancellation. If she is still in, Regina can still die but then they would probably bring back the 'EQ double' for Lana to play. Just a guess. Yeah, I know there's nothing left for Regina anyway but after all the past investment this possibility still irks me. I think I might definitely just wait to read what people have to say about the finale. But too bad it can't be confirmed early so I can finally put this show to rest and not even wonder about a possible s7 anymore without Lana.

[kindness is free]

TFTNT

[sherry02]

TFTNT!

Bringing this over from the previous thread:

Okay, this can just be pure speculation so I would take it with a grain of salt. And I was also curious if anybody else came across this possible theory about a filmed finale scene? I was on a Lana Parrilla fan page on FB where some spoiler pics were posted. I believe they are from the finale - Emma is in her usual attire, hat, jeans, boots, red jacket etc. Regina is wearing what appears to be a cranberry colored suit ensemble? Anyway, the discussion was about I believe Gideon fights Emma again in the finale (ie. Black Fairy still has control of his heart) but Regina & Emma come up with a plan for Regina to magically glamour into Emma, fight Gideon, and she might die in Emma's place? So what, Emma was really seeing Regina's death the whole time, not her own? Shocking. There is a confirmed death for the finale. Up until now, I was leaning more towards Rumple but that bait & switch theory seems pretty plausible to me. Regina can sword fight. She practically has nothing left, she redeemed herself, there's no Robin, and Henry is almost grown and will have Hook & Emma because CS are getting married. Even if Robert Carlyle doesn't return for a possible s7, they might just write his character off with Belle to give them a HE. I get that this show should just end, Lana deserves better, Regina has been written into this boring supporting role but I'm still going to roll my eyes if this plays out like this. Another poster and I discussed this at length just after s5 ended and we got into lengthy discussion on the main OUAT board about them killing Regina off by series end, and dun dun ... sacrificing herself for Emma. After all the crappy bad tragic & depressing writing for Regina, it made sense. Why would they keep Robin Hood around for a HE when they planned to kill the former EQ off all along. They have nothing left to write for Regina in a s7 that is why I did consider that Lana is one of the actors out if there isn't a cancellation. If she is still in, Regina can still die but then they would probably bring back the 'EQ double' for Lana to play. Just a guess. Yeah, I know there's nothing left for Regina anyway but after all the past investment this possibility still irks me. I think I might definitely just wait to read what people have to say about the finale. But too bad it can't be confirmed early so I can finally put this show to rest and not even wonder about a possible s7 anymore without Lana.

I saw something about this on one of the blogs I read, but I didn't get the impression there was any reason to believe there's any truth to it. Just my opinion, but I don't think this is happening. One reason is that there was a Hot Seat article recently saying that the final battle would have to be fought by Emma alone. Another reason is that Lana filmed something with Kerry Washington from Scandal recently that people believe is for ABC Upfronts and I don't think they'd be using her for promotion if her character is dead. I do think it's possible that Regina will die before the series ends, but I think they need her if they have any hope of success in another season.

I think the decision to kill off Robin was because either a) they messed up the story so badly with Zelena they decided to not even try to fix it or b) they've decided Regina is going to be the "I don't need a partner to be happy" character.

ETA: I'm assuming the death is the Black Fairy. They didn't say it would be a regular character.

[GrhmLz]

Tftnt.

Originally Posted by sherry02 (View Post) TFTNT! Bringing this over from the previous thread: I saw something about this on one of the blogs I read, but I didn't get the impression there was any reason to believe there's any truth to it. Just my opinion, but I don't think this is happening. One reason is that there was a Hot Seat article recently saying that the final battle would have to be fought by Emma alone. Another reason is that Lana filmed something with Kerry Washington from Scandal recently that people believe is for ABC Upfronts and I don't think they'd be using her for promotion if her character is dead. I do think it's possible that Regina will die before the series ends, but I think they need her if they have any hope of success in another season. I think the decision to kill off Robin was because either a) they messed up the story so badly with Zelena they decided to not even try to fix it or b) they've decided Regina is going to be the "I don't need a partner to be happy" character.

I did read those hot seat questions and you are right, when they posed the question about the final battle, A&E did answer something to the effect of it being Emma"s battle alone. Which, to be honest, kind of made me think what the hell is the point of all the other characters then but whatever. I am used to the whole plot being about Emma now.

I do hope you are right, though, and that there is nothing to this. I just think Regina deserves better by this point even if its unlikely to happen. It's not like she'll die but then get a happy reunion in the afterlife that we can be satisfied with. I don't want Regina sacrificing herself just so Emma can walk away with her happy ending in the narrative. Emma is supposed to be the Savior - not Regina. All Regina's death will be about is Emma if this happens. Rumple is still a strong possibility to die, maybe it will involve saving his son somehow so Belle gets her HE with her son but I think I will remain open to the strong chance that it could just as easily be Regina as well.

I did see the picture for the Upfronts with Lana dressed up as EQ so that's why I speculated maybe Regina would die but EQ double comes back. Lana could be promoting that without us realizing it yet.

I definitely agree with those sentiments on what happened with Robin. I think what happened first is they wrote themselves into a corner with Zelena|Baby storyline which was epic fail to the audience. So they didn't want to be bothered to fix it. Then, because they had no intention of having yet another love interest explored after pushing how much Robin & Regina were soulmates, they went for the independent woman trope and hoped that would fly. I probably should have made myself clearer in that what I was referring more to was them bringing Robin back in s6 in the way that they did. If Regina is going to die anyway, there was no point in keeping our Robin Hood around for her to get a series HE with. They could have chosen to pursue Robin's return any way they wanted yet they chose some wish realm double version of him.

[sherry02]

I can't see any reason they brought Robin back at all for season 6. There was no point to it since he wasn't even the same character as previous seasons. I just think the network made them do it and they did the bare minimum.

They could bring the EQ back, but I think if Regina died it wouldn't happen right away, since the characters are so similar now. I could see that being a useful idea if Lana were to leave and then decide later she wanted to come back and Regina had already been killed off.

I agree Rumple is a strong possibility to die, although I still think most likely is the Black Fairy since she needs to be defeated for the final battle to be over. Or it could be both of them, with Rumple sacrificing himself to save his family from her.

[GrhmLz]

Originally Posted by sherry02 (View Post) I can't see any reason they brought Robin back at all for season 6. There was no point to it since he wasn't even the same character as previous seasons. I just think the network made them do it and they did the bare minimum.

I think you are probaby right. They didn't write his return as if they wanted to do it. So they did it in a round about way that wasn't real closure or a real HE. A&E were probably in no position to argue with ABC execs due to the ratings decline - they probably had to do what the network requested.

They could bring the EQ back, but I think if Regina died it wouldn't happen right away, since the characters are so similar now. I could see that being a useful idea if Lana were to leave and then decide later she wanted to come back and Regina had already been killed off.

Sorry. What I meant to explain was the character dressed as the EQ, the double who went to the wish verse, might be the role Lana picks up in a hypothetical s7 'new book' if Regina were to die. They are both technically the same on the inside, yes, balanced with light & dark. I personally don't think the actual Evil Quuen will come back as the evil she once was.

I agree Rumple is a strong possibility to die, although I still think most likely is the Black Fairy since she needs to be defeated for the final battle to be over. Or it could be both of them, with Rumple sacrificing himself to save his family from her.

True, they could be playing with semantics here with 'character death.' I just figured with the stakes so high for a final battle, and a would be ultimate villain, realistically there is likely to be loss on both sides. And with some actors likely not returning? But yeah, who knows with this show, lol.

[kindness is free]

I don't like any of this talk of Regina dying!!

[GrhmLz]

I hope it's not what happens. But I am preparing myself for the possibility. I do think somebody will die, though, besides the black fairy.

[sherry02]

Heather, you are probably right. Thinking about other fantasy series tv shows and books that I've read, the epic battle at the end of the series nearly always involves death on both sides. I don't believe it will be Regina though. If it's not Rumple, it could be Blue. Even though she's been around off and on since season 1, she's not that important to the story.

[GrhmLz]

Very right, Sherry, and that's along the lines of what I was thinking. Any fan favorite character death sucks for the actual fans of the character who want to see them getting their HE but, in an epic battle, unfortunately the title doesn't really live up to its name without the stakes being high for both sides.

Regina could be a fake out, we might be lead to believe she'll be sacrificing in Emma's place IF a magical switch takes place for the fight but then another character steps in and takes the ultimate blow to end it? If that were to happen, my guess would definitely be Rumple. He was the actual master mind in manipulating Regina to cast the curse, he made Emma the Savior, BF is his mother, and if it spares Belle or somehow saves Gideon, I can see him taking all that accountability onto himself if the show has him truly go out as a hero for everybody? He'll go out with the BF but the only thing is that would be a bit repetitive of the Peter Pan resolution.

I don't see them killing Snow, Charming, Belle (ie. They didn't establish her as important enough for her sacrifice to have a big sl impact, although I am open to being wrong), we know by now it won't be Hook, & I'd be shocked if they actually let Emma die as the Savior. My best guess comes down to Rumple or Regina to provide an impact. But if it's neither one of them, yeah, Blue fairy is a good safe choice. Hard to say which route they go depending on who they bring back for a potential s7.

This came out and I found the highlighted section a bit telling:


Spoiler Room:

Anything you can tease about the Final Battle on Once Upon a Time? — Seamus
The wand shard that Hook brought back from Neverland will play a pivotal role in the Finale Battle. “Tiger Lily has played a key role in what’s going to be happening between the Black Fairy and all of our characters, especially Emma,” EP Adam Horowitz says. “That little bit of help she gave is going to be really important.” Plus: Someone will make a big sacrifice during Sunday’s episode in a bid to take down the Black Fairy.
Spoiler Room: Scoop on Scandal, Arrow, Agents of SHIELD

I am going to assume that highlighted portion is talking about the Sunday when the finale airs? Which is probably talking about the character who will likely die and I'm only guessing it'll be somebody from the main character group.

[sherry02]

Originally Posted by GrhmLz (View Post) Spoiler Room: Anything you can tease about the Final Battle on Once Upon a Time? — Seamus The wand shard that Hook brought back from Neverland will play a pivotal role in the Finale Battle. “Tiger Lily has played a key role in what’s going to be happening between the Black Fairy and all of our characters, especially Emma,” EP Adam Horowitz says. “That little bit of help she gave is going to be really important.” Plus: Someone will make a big sacrifice during Sunday’s episode in a bid to take down the Black Fairy. Spoiler Room: Scoop on Scandal, Arrow, Agents of SHIELD I am going to assume that highlighted portion is talking about the Sunday when the finale airs? Which is probably talking about the character who will likely die and I'm only guessing it'll be somebody from the main character group.

I think they are talking about this Sunday's episode. I think Zelena is the person making the sacrifice. Sneak peek and filming spoiler talk in tags

Spoiler:

In the sneak peek, the Black Fairy is low key threatening baby Robin if Zelena doesn't help her. In the press release, it says that young Zelena has to decide between helping a friend get a new heart and keeping her powers. I think she chooses to keep her powers in the flashback. Paralleling that, I think whatever is happening in the present will require Zelena to give up her powers in order to protect the baby. I have no ideas on how it will happen, but that's what I think. And it's about time she had to make some type of sacrifice. That might also explain why Regina is giving her a car in 6x19. She can't use magic to travel anymore.

[kindness is free]

It was bad enough when Robin was killed off I was devastated I couldn't post here for a couple of weeks!

I can't imagine how I will be with another main cast member getting killed off especially if its Regina!!

[GrhmLz]

Sherry, that is certainly possible. The rest of the information was highlighting the final battle so I was assuming the sacrifice was part of that too.

Right when the spoilers & rumors hit, just before 5b aired, I knew it was going to be Robin's death so I prepared myself and quit watching. I hope Regina won't die but I won't be shocked if it happens. I don't think these writers are above doing it. Of course, I'd probably still vent about it afterwards, lol.

[kindness is free]

Oh yes there will be shock and outrage here if they kill her off thats for sure!

[sherry02]

It's seeming like that rumor Heather mentioned in the previous thread about a possible wish Robin/EQ engagement might have some truth to it. I saw a partial periscope of the Sean and Lana panel in Barcelona where they nearly came right out and said that story isn't over and there was some grinning and then Lana saying she thinks they're "having a good time". That doesn't necessarily equal engagement, but after hearing this, it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe Suz will have something to add when she gets back since she was there.