Miss Cam

We haven't seen Lancelot in SB yet, so one of my very sad suspicions is that Arthur made Guinevere crush Lancelot's heart to cast the curse (since he's got her mindcontrolled). It would be really heartbreaking, that's for sure. It's just a suspicion for now and not a fullblown theory yet, so we'll see.

We just don't know at this point, after all. I just want Guin to kick ass and take names at the end of the day. She is clearly quite capable and to have her be the ruling queen at the end would give her a purpose. I hate to see her being used like this, and by a husband who claims her loves her no less.

koodles

Oh that would be so sad for Guinivere/Lancelot.
But it makes sense.

And I agree with you on Guin. I want to see her rise up from this situation.

T'Lynn

The NYCC panel video made me think that Eddy's comment on a heart being crushed could be metaphorically.

CityGal

There were so many references from the past and foreshadowing that it's making my head spin.

Guinevere's "it's about choices" to Arthur either power or love was a big one. The theme of trust in relationships.

And loved the overall Dark One mythology and origins within the Camelot story. Loved it!

fox24

I don't think they'll kill a little girl

scififan2009

Fate set Killian on a path to find the dagger. And his name appears on the sword. I think there's a reason for that.

Yeah, whatever connection Killian may have to Camelot or Excalibur I doubt he would leave Storybrooke or Emma. Gwen will make a better ruler than Arthur, once she's cured of the spell.

CityGal

I believe his story is ultimately about destroying the darkness than it is about becoming Camelot's ruler. If we are correct in the Merlin/Nimue speculations, that may be a bigger clue to the reasons Killian and Emma's name on the full sword.

Destroying the Dark One has been Killian's story since his very first episode. His entire character is tied into the Dark One's story and hopefully the story will come full circle this arc in dramatic style.

DR76

I thought it was Emma who had cast this latest curse.




Is this the new feminism? The only way a woman can be "independent" is if she is not romantically involved? Does the same goes for men? Or is this some gender double standard? Poor Snow, Regina, Emma, Aurora, Belle, and all of the other female characters who are romantically involved. They're prisoners, not independent women.

scififan2009

I can see Merlin fixing it so that only true love can mend Excalibur and destroy the darkness. That's most likely how it started, with him and Nimue.

Radames

Oh absolutely he will not leave SB that doesn't mean he's not the one that will reform the kingdom and become the king by name of the prophesy. Even if he won't stay in Camelot it doesn't change the prophesy or it's significance.

koodles

Seriously WHAT is your problem???

You are majorly twisting my words. And you are the person who accused me of "s.lut shaming" Zelena because I thought it was gross that she raped Robin. You have nothing relevant to say about feminism as far as I'm concerned.

BlueWolf

Oh my, what a nice episode.

It had me worried about charming till the final part...i should have expected him not to trust arthur easily...i will never doubt you again charming.
Nice teamwork of Snow/charming there, i liked it...it was about time for that again.

Can anybody really blame Guineverre for falling in love with Lancelot? Im a man and even i got a little bit light headed just by looking at him
I hope he is alive, i really like him...maybe he even becomes the new king(seriously, there is no way arthur will survive the season)

Guineverre was a character that seemed suspicious to me, i didnt knew what to think.
I didnt expect her to be a victim of arthurs obsession...it will be interesting to see what happens.

Arthur became very fast a pretty creepy character, first his obsession with the sword...then the whole mindcontrol sand....wow.
Instead of fixing a broken kingdom with the sword he has, he wants to fix a broken sword in hopes that it fixes everything.
He is so obsessed with the legend of the sword, that he doesnt want to become a legend on his own.

The whole mindcontrol sand explains so good why emma thought her family failed her.
It wasnt there own choice, they have been forced to do so...this is a twist i really like.
That will be really emotional in the coming episodes.

If you dont think the whole stables scene was adorable, i dont know what your preferences are
This was one of the cutest scenes ever.

I dont think i have to say anything CS related...it speaks for itself...the only way they can make True love more obvious is by the TLK(which will come soon)

After the episode i have even more respect for belle.
Guineverre, Robin etc all fell in love with a "good" person before they became really dark or evil.
But Belle fell in love with the man who was hiding inside the beast.
She didnt knew rumple before, but could see what is beneath.
Guineverre fell in love with a good man who became "evil", Robin fell in love with Regina when she was on her way to become good.
Belle and to some degree Emma, saw what was behind.

5x05 is supposed to be the big one right?
The promo already seems like a heartbreaker.

Crying Dark Swan is really really really emotional.
I hope we find out how the curse was cast.
There is a theory that i dont think will be more then that.
Have we ruled out that emma got pregnant in this 6 weeks?
I dont think that the show would do something like that, but that is the only real explenation i have at this point.
Maybe Emma had to give up the child and had to cast the curse to save everybody from Arthur.

But that brings another question, if Emma has her memories, why didnt she kill arthur?
I dont think she knows about the sand, otherwise she would know that it wasnt the fault of her family/friends.
I dont know.

scififan2009

Can Mordred please show up and put Arthur out of everyone's misery?

Randysgirl

I think so too.

After watching this latest episode, I thought it was interesting that Arthur said when you combine Excalibur, you snuff out the darkness. Of course, the DO voice in Emma's head told her the exact opposite. I'm guessing that it will be neither, and that it's actually all about balance. Everyone has darkness and light and the sword represents the two balanced together - that's why it's "the mightiest sword of all."

Belleislove

Well, with this show all that means is they'll try to redeem him.