[jediwands]

Originally Posted by Librarianx01 (View Post) Wow. This is a super interesting question Michelle I think Delia would never find out. She was so young when her mother died and I really think that even if Ephram or Andy told her when she was older and could understand, it would do more harm than good. I also think it just wouldn't do much for Delia. Julia and Delia were close but not as much as Julia and Ephram. I think she would shrug it off if she heard about the affair. By the point, Andy or Ephram might have told her, Nina is her stepmom. Her mom will have been dead 5-7 years at that point (depends how quickly A/N get married ). She was 13 when the show ended, so she'd either be 14/15/16 when her dad and Nina got married. Ephram will be well into his studies at this point in the show and maybe not home as much as he used to be (even if "Colorado A&M" isn't far away). So, who is to tell Delia? Andy? And why would Andy want to bring it up with Delia? Now I guess I'm throwing questions back out at you

Very good thoughts. The only time I could see this coming up is if suddenly Delia would remember how tense things were back in NYC. I am not sure she would though because she was so young. But she could question the marriage somehow later on, she might want to remember her mother more since she lost her so young. She might remember all the fighting between her brother and father in Everwood and wonder why there was so much tension. She might start to ask questions as she explores more about her mother as an adult. Maybe not though.

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Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) I just saw this now or else I would have answered it sooner. No, I don't feel that Delia needed to know why Andy and Julia had issues or that her mother had had an affair. She was so young when Julia died and she didn't harbor the resentment that Ephram had toward his father, and Andy was essentially forced to tell Ephram about Julia's affair because Ephram had falsely accused him of having an affair. I couldn't see anything good coming out of Andy telling Delia about Julia's affair unless there was some scenario where she brought it up. I think that Julia cheating on Andy was part of the reason that they had problems, but the main reason (which Andy recognized and admitted to Ephram) was due to his workaholic ways and his neglect of Julia and their family. One key difference in Ephram and Delia's reaction to moving is their age. I can relate because it didn't seem to bother my sisters at all to move to New Jersey and they never talk about our old neighborhood in The Bronx and they're not nostalgic about it like I was. Moving really bothered me and like Ephram I resented my parents for moving us away from where I was happy, but in hindsight they definitely made the right move as our neighborhood was changing and becoming increasingly unsafe, especially for a timid, short (then) and skinny kid like I was.

Good thoughts. Yes, I don't see it coming up naturally. It would come from Delia as she gets older and wants to know more about their time in NYC and maybe how tense things were between her brother and father when they first moved to Everwood.

A version of this actually happened in my extended family... one of my aunts (through marriage) cheated on my uncle (my mother's brother) and my cousins never knew about it until they were adults. They started questioning things and found out. But this is slightly different because their mother is still alive and their parents split up and eventually divorced. They still wanted to know why the marriage broke up. They blamed my uncle for years thinking he was the biggest part of the divorce since he traveled a lot for work. Honestly, it takes two but my uncle is a great guy and that was the problem. His wife at the time wanted more spark and passion and fun in the marriage, not an actual marriage if that makes sense so she looked elsewhere. My cousins really viewed things differently when at ages 18 and 21, they found out the real reason why their parents marriage fell apart. They apologized profusely to my uncle for blaming him, not that he said it was necessary. Their relationships with my ex aunt was initially strained but average now. However, they are not anywhere near as close to her as they are to my uncle.

Why did your sisters not miss The Bronx, Jerry? Did they also leave friends behind? I can totally see the parallel between you and Ephram and your sisters and Delia for sure.

[Librarianx01]

I agree that Delia would only know if she wanted to remember her mother. Or maybe if she was having a particularly hard day with Nina or Andy, she might yell something like "you're not my real mom" etc etc. But I think Delia would have a fairly good relationship with her stepmom and dad. Like a typical teen, I think she'd have her moments of wanting Julia there.

I would have loved to see Delia and Amy have a stronger relationship too now that Delia is getting older and Amy is (most likely ) going to be her sister in law. That would be fun to see.

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) Good thoughts. Yes, I don't see it coming up naturally. It would come from Delia as she gets older and wants to know more about their time in NYC and maybe how tense things were between her brother and father when they first moved to Everwood.

I could see that possibly happening, and maybe both Andy and Ephram would talk to her if she wanted to know.

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) A version of this actually happened in my extended family... one of my aunts (through marriage) cheated on my uncle (my mother's brother) and my cousins never knew about it until they were adults. They started questioning things and found out. But this is slightly different because their mother is still alive and their parents split up and eventually divorced. They still wanted to know why the marriage broke up. They blamed my uncle for years thinking he was the biggest part of the divorce since he traveled a lot for work. Honestly, it takes two but my uncle is a great guy and that was the problem. His wife at the time wanted more spark and passion and fun in the marriage, not an actual marriage if that makes sense so she looked elsewhere. My cousins really viewed things differently when at ages 18 and 21, they found out the real reason why their parents marriage fell apart. They apologized profusely to my uncle for blaming him, not that he said it was necessary. Their relationships with my ex aunt was initially strained but average now. However, they are not anywhere near as close to her as they are to my uncle.

Wow, that's really interesting. For your uncle's sake, it was good that the truth came out.

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) Why did your sisters not miss The Bronx, Jerry? Did they also leave friends behind? I can totally see the parallel between you and Ephram and your sisters and Delia for sure.

My sister Joan had just turned ten when we moved and my sister Carol had just turned six when we moved. I was a few months shy of twelve when we moved. Still young, but in New York I had a circle of friends that I missed a lot. My sisters had some friends in New York but they didn't seem to miss them, and they didn't try to keep in touch with them like I did with my old friends. My sisters just aren't as sentimental and sensitive as I am. They're close with each other but not with me, but they're a little less close since my sister Carol got married because Joan and her husband don't really like Carol's husband. I just stay out of it all and I don't talk to them all that often. Neither one of them really likes to talk about the "old days" with me, so I don't try to do it anymore. It makes me sad sometimes but it is what it is.

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Librarianx01 (View Post) I agree that Delia would only know if she wanted to remember her mother. Or maybe if she was having a particularly hard day with Nina or Andy, she might yell something like "you're not my real mom" etc etc. But I think Delia would have a fairly good relationship with her stepmom and dad. Like a typical teen, I think she'd have her moments of wanting Julia there.

Yes, that could possibly happen, but Delia was pretty sweet-natured for the most part so I don't think she'd ever rebel to the degree that Ephram rebelled. If I recall correctly, though, she really didn't like it when Andy dated Linda, but she knew Nina longer and Nina had already been somewhat of a mother figure to her.

Originally Posted by Librarianx01 (View Post) I would have loved to see Delia and Amy have a stronger relationship too now that Delia is getting older and Amy is (most likely ) going to be her sister in law. That would be fun to see.

Yes, that would have been nice to see and I also feel that there would be some really humorous moments between them.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by Librarianx01 (View Post) I agree that Delia would only know if she wanted to remember her mother. Or maybe if she was having a particularly hard day with Nina or Andy, she might yell something like "you're not my real mom" etc etc. But I think Delia would have a fairly good relationship with her stepmom and dad. Like a typical teen, I think she'd have her moments of wanting Julia there. I would have loved to see Delia and Amy have a stronger relationship too now that Delia is getting older and Amy is (most likely ) going to be her sister in law. That would be fun to see.

I LOVED the Amy/Delia moment when Delia was dealing with hormones and Amy helped her out. I remember when that episode first came out... the fans on the board were so giddy with excitement and we all hoped we’d receive more Amy/Delia from that point forward. Unfortunately, we did not.

I think they would make excellent sisters in the future. I would love to see them interact in the future. Revival anyone?

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Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) I could see that possibly happening, and maybe both Andy and Ephram would talk to her if she wanted to know.

They would both go there together.

Wow, that's really interesting. For your uncle's sake, it was good that the truth came out.

She was a real witch. No one in the family liked her. We were so relieved when they got divorced. He moved on and met a really wonderful woman several years later.

My sister Joan had just turned ten when we moved and my sister Carol had just turned six when we moved. I was a few months shy of twelve when we moved. Still young, but in New York I had a circle of friends that I missed a lot. My sisters had some friends in New York but they didn't seem to miss them, and they didn't try to keep in touch with them like I did with my old friends. My sisters just aren't as sentimental and sensitive as I am. They're close with each other but not with me, but they're a little less close since my sister Carol got married because Joan and her husband don't really like Carol's husband. I just stay out of it all and I don't talk to them all that often. Neither one of them really likes to talk about the "old days" with me, so I don't try to do it anymore. It makes me sad sometimes but it is what it is.

I completely understand. Oh okay, so they were very young. It makes sense in their defense a little bit why the move would be way easier on them. You were slightly older, so of course you would have a more difficult time. Do your sisters both still live in NJ and close to each other?

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) I think they would make excellent sisters in the future. I would love to see them interact in the future. Revival anyone?

I would love to see a revival and it totally could work. Andy would have to be a widower again since Stephanie Niznik passed away, but all the other actors could pick up where they left off, with the possible exception of Chris Pratt, who's a huge movie star now. Still though, he might make a few token appearances.

[jediwands]

Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) I would love to see a revival and it totally could work. Andy would have to be a widower again since Stephanie Niznik passed away, but all the other actors could pick up where they left off, with the possible exception of Chris Pratt, who's a huge movie star now. Still though, he might make a few token appearances.

Yes, it really could work. I think Chris would go there. I couldn’t see him deliberately saying no. He’s too good of a guy to go there.

Would you want Andy to find someone else or remarry?

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) They would both go there together.

Definitely.

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) She was a real witch. No one in the family liked her. We were so relieved when they got divorced. He moved on and met a really wonderful woman several years later.

That's great!

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) I completely understand. Oh okay, so they were very young. It makes sense in their defense a little bit why the move would be way easier on them. You were slightly older, so of course you would have a more difficult time. Do your sisters both still live in NJ and close to each other?

My sisters both still live in New Jersey and they're about an hour from each other. I think they see each other several times a year. My sister Joan is a Biden supporter and my sister Carol is a Trump supporter, so they clashed a few times. Joan said her husband and her son voted for Trump, but like me, she can't stand Trump. My sister Joan feels that Carol became a Trump supporter because her husband is. My parents were pretty Conservative, but I can't see either one of them supporting Trump. My father in particular would be repulsed by his crude and vile language and his manner of speaking to people.

Do you remember the New York Giants coach Bill Parcells Michelle? One time, my father and I were watching a Giants game back in the 1980's and they lost, and Parcells went on a tear, cursing and throwing things around, and I remember how appalled my father was that he would act like that, so I couldn't see him supporting Trump at all.

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Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) Definitely. That's great! My sisters both still live in New Jersey and they're about an hour from each other. I think they see each other several times a year. My sister Joan is a Biden supporter and my sister Carol is a Trump supporter, so they clashed a few times. My sister Joan feels that Carol became a Trump supporter because her husband is.

I could see that. Honestly, Trump supporters are difficult to reach. If her husband is a Trump supporter, his influence converted her. Was she a conservative before Trump?

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Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) Definitely. That's great! My sisters both still live in New Jersey and they're about an hour from each other. I think they see each other several times a year. My sister Joan is a Biden supporter and my sister Carol is a Trump supporter, so they clashed a few times. Joan said her husband and her son voted for Trump, but like me, she can't stand Trump. My sister Joan feels that Carol became a Trump supporter because her husband is. My parents were pretty Conservative, but I can't see either one of them supporting Trump. My father in particular would be repulsed by his crude and vile language and his manner of speaking to people.

I bet.

Do you remember the New York Giants coach Bill Parcells Michelle? One time, my father and I were watching a Giants game back in the 1980's and they lost, and Parcells went on a tear, cursing and throwing things around, and I remember how appalled my father was that he would act like that, so I couldn't see him supporting Trump at all.

I do remember Bill and when he was with the G-Men. Oh yes, your father wouldn’t tolerate Trump for a second. No way!

[Jerry D]

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) I could see that. Honestly, Trump supporters are difficult to reach. If her husband is a Trump supporter, his influence converted her. Was she a conservative before Trump?

I honestly don't know. I never really talked about politics with them until this year, and I really only talked about it with Joan since she volunteered the information that she voted for Biden.

[Librarianx01]

Originally Posted by Auror (View Post) Yes, it really could work. I think Chris would go there. I couldn’t see him deliberately saying no. He’s too good of a guy to go there. Would you want Andy to find someone else or remarry?

I love this idea. A revival. A brief film. I mean if Veronica Mars could do it, why can't Everwood? Let's phone Greg Berlanti I think I'd want Andy to be alone. He's had enough heartbreak! I'd like to imagine he hangs out with Harold and Rose, Edna, and maybe is the guardian of Sam With that said, how is his relationship with Carl? Is Carl a part of this show, or is he waved away?

If this revival takes place today, the characters are:
Bright: 33
Ephram/Amy: 32
Hannah: ...I guess she's still on the show 31
Delia: 26 (how? )
Sam: 23-ish (if we imagine him to be 8 or 9 when the show ends?)
Harold/Rose: 62
Andy: 62
Edna: 86 (?)

So does the next generation have kids? Do we imagine them with significant others, or single?

Also, someone please correct me if my math is off I am terrible at it.

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Originally Posted by Jerry D (View Post) I honestly don't know. I never really talked about politics with them until this year, and I really only talked about it with Joan since she volunteered the information that she voted for Biden.

Got it. I find it interesting listening to my soon to be 19 and 21 year old nieces discuss politics and Trump. Their thoughts probably do speak for Generation Z, or the vast majority with the main themes. But what I find the most interesting is the main question they have... how was Trump ever voted in? What happened over the last 5-7 years to allow such a thing? They truly are baffled and cannot believe it.