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Old 05-24-2015, 04:05 PM
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idk! just the timing of both bay/emmett and travis/mary beth breaking up. and the bay/travis interactions in 4x05 and 4x09. they were really supportive of each other. i'd normally say these are purely friendship scenes, but this is tv and nothing seems to stay platonic on sab.
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idk! just the timing of both bay/emmett and travis/mary beth breaking up. and the bay/travis interactions in 4x05 and 4x09. they were really supportive of each other. i'd normally say these are purely friendship scenes, but this is tv and nothing seems to stay platonic on sab.
That makes really good sense!

You are right about the timing. The writers could have chosen to leave Mary Beth and Travis together. It would not have been a bad choice for them to make.

I wonder why they didn't.

Do you think it is because they wanted to do something different with the characters, OR do you think it is because they didn't want Mary Beth & Travis staying together, since Bay & Emmett did not make it.

Also, I wonder what the writers have up their sleeves for both Travis and Mary Beth.

Any predictions other than a Bay & Travis romance?
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Old 05-25-2015, 08:40 PM
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travis and mary beth were fine but i wasn't invested. i think there is a possibility they put them together again, but i'm still kind of hoping they go back to travis/daphne eventually so i'd rather travis/mary beth just be over for good.
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Old 05-26-2015, 02:06 AM
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travis and mary beth were fine but i wasn't invested. i think there is a possibility they put them together again, but i'm still kind of hoping they go back to travis/daphne eventually so i'd rather travis/mary beth just be over for good.
Really?

I saw fans crying out for a Travis & Mary Beth reunion the moment they broke up on screen, and I thought to myself, at the time, there is NO way the writers would ever put them back together. That relationship is over forever.

I do not see them as written to be in love with each other. I do think they feel love for one another, but I do not see them as in love.

I liked Travis and Mary Beth together, in the beginning. But like everything else on Switched at Birth, their story got squeezed out by guest stars. There was never enough time to see their relationship explored, and I lost interest.

It's a shame, too, because Mary Beth losing her virginity to Travis is a much different story than Bay losing her virginity to Ty, and I would have liked to see moments between Mary Beth and Travis, around the time when that part of their relationship was unfolding.

Anything is possible, but I will be surprised if the writers put them back together. I don't see the writers as believing that Mary Beth and Travis's love for each other is all that deep. I see Mary Beth and Travis as an example of the type of couple who is not meant to survive the college transition, nor ever find their way back together.

That's more the kind of love that Bay & Emmett share, although there may not be any hope left for them, either.
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Old 05-26-2015, 06:30 AM
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I don't think Travis and Mary Beth were built to last. They did seem to be there for each other to have a first love. But LW seemed really protective of them so idk.
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Old 05-27-2015, 02:11 PM
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Yeah, I was not invested in them at all. It's not that I hated them. There was just nothing to really connect me to the story. I'm glad they had each other for a while though.

It is interesting how they had both couples break up around the same time. I remember thinking, hmm, so maybe Bay & Emmett won't break up since they just had Mary Beth and Travis end things. But alas, I was wrong.

That being said, yeah, I could see a potential Travis/Bay romance or a near hit and miss.
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Old 05-27-2015, 04:45 PM
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I remember thinking, hmm, so maybe Bay & Emmett won't break up since they just had Mary Beth and Travis end things. But alas, I was wrong.
i thought that too. so wrong. i'm always wrong.
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Old 05-29-2015, 03:30 PM
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i thought that too. so wrong. i'm always wrong.
I think we all thought that.

I do wonder what they'll do with Bay's love life. I hope she falls in love with someone and has a serious relationship. I might be alone in that hope, but she needs some happiness and a new man in her life. She needs new experiences, away from Emmett, so she can grow.
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I think we all thought that.

I do wonder what they'll do with Bay's love life. I hope she falls in love with someone and has a serious relationship. I might be alone in that hope, but she needs some happiness and a new man in her life. She needs new experiences, away from Emmett, so she can grow.
How quickly things can change. Looks like we are set on a collision course with a Bay & Travis romance now. I'm sure the writers will make it sweet, if it happens. But I feel so jerked around by the writers that I find it really hard to care.

Normally, I don't want any new guest stars on this show. We've had enough. But a new hearing character should come along and sweep Bay off of her feet. I hate the thought of Bay exploring all of the Deaf and hearing issues that I wanted her to explore with Emmett, with Travis instead.

And on a different topic, can Emmett and Daphne EVER date a Deaf character?

I've been wanting to see a relationship between two Deaf characters since I watched the pilot episode. It seems so unrealistic to me that NONE of the Deaf characters ever date other Deaf characters. That's not how real life works, is it?

The closest we've come is Daphne's brief attempt to date Travis for one episode. And she wasn't even into him.

Natalie dated a CODA. I guess that's as close as we will ever get to two Deaf people having a relationship on this show.

I'm really starting to wish we could see a Daphne and Emmett romance. I never wanted one before now, but with Bay and Emmett's relationship seeming irreparable, maybe it was always meant to be Daphne and Emmett. At least they would share a culture.

Maybe the reason Bay and Emmett have all of these problems is because they don't share a culture. Maybe a Daphne and Emmett romance would be smooth sailing and happiness. I want that.

Travis might be better suited for Bay because his whole family is hearing. Or maybe Bay belongs with someone new that she meets in her adventures. I still wish the writers would bring back Alex for Bay. He loved her. He was a good guy. And Alex was really cute.

The writers may try to sell Bay and Travis, but my vote is Bay and Alex .

AND I'd really like to see Emmett and Daphne explored before the end.
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So now is the time we can officially revive this thread! So to get the discussion moving how about I give some potential topics of discussion!

We know Travis now has feelings for Bay, do we think Bay also has some sort of feelings for him? Would Bay act on them?
I think that Bay might have feelings for him. While she was using Travis to make Emmett jealous, when Emmett started verbally attacking them she was quick to defend Travis as soon as Emmett turned on him. There really didn't seem to be hesitation in that. I don't think she'll act on those feelings, though. I think it would be hard for her especially since Frida's student told her about how Frida had slept with Diego's good friends and how horrible that was. Now, if Travis acted on his feelings then I think she would follow suite after a little hesitation.

Will he act on these feelings? Or will they remain friends?
I think he'll try to ignore the feelings a little longer. I think it will come to a head though. He really allows her to walk all over him right now (I mean he obviously knew she was using him during the body shots part). But I think eventually he'll want to swoop in and be with her.

What would a future relationship for them be like? Would it be different than his relationship with Mary Beth?
I think it would actually be different than with Mary Beth. He has already let her in and while he's protective of her, he does let her fight her own battles to an extent. I also don't think Bay would put up with him going too far. She already is comfortable telling him off and putting him in his place. They are also really honest with each other. I think they could have a really mature relationship.

How do we feel about Travis not telling Bay about Emmett's relationship and knowing she was using him at the bar but still going along with it?
I'm conflicted about this, but I think it's very telling for how much he already feels for her. He's allowing her to treat him in a way that he never allowed Mary Beth to. He also really seems to care about her feelings, although he's learning quickly that honesty works best with Bay.


So, thoughts? Feelings? Think I'm completely crazy? Hate them as a couple and only want them to remain friends forever? Let's talk about it all!

I hope someone joins in the fun discussion. It's hard to talk just to myself lol.
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Old 09-23-2015, 02:23 AM
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We know Travis now has feelings for Bay, do we think Bay also has some sort of feelings for him? Would Bay act on them?

I don't think Bay has any romantic feelings for Travis yet, but I do believe she could allow herself to have them in the future. She cares about him. I also believe it would be easier for Bay to have romantic feelings for Travis, than it was for her to have them for Tank.

For some reason, I sense that Bay seems to want to date a man who is Deaf again.

My first love was in the Navy, and I remember being naive enough to think that those same feelings could be replicated by dating another sailor. But they couldn't.

Maybe Bay will try to do something similar, before she explores the world at large.

My first love had been this gentle, romantic artist and poet. He wasn't well-suited for the Navy. He loved the ocean, but the realities of going out to sea were difficult for him.

The next sailor I dated was not gentle. He was rough, crude, and smelled like cigarettes, cheap booze, and a whole bottle of Polo cologne.

For me, all it took was one kiss, and I knew my heart was still with my first love. But for Bay, I could see her exploring a long relationship with Travis. She could discover things about Travis, as a man, that she likes even better than Emmett.

If Bay does have a romantic relationship with Travis, I see her recognizing that Travis is better suited to her in some ways, and Emmett is better suited to her in other ways.

Bay will have a decision to make, if that is the case. Because we know Emmett will be interested in Bay again one day.

One thing that bothers me about Bay and Travis sleeping together is that, for the remainder of their lives, things will be uncomfortable between Travis and Emmett. I'm not saying that either man could not adjust to being the ultimate loser in the contest for Bay's love. Either one probably could adjust to that.

But for the remainder of their lives, at any family gathering, some awkwardness would exist.

As for Bay being quick to defend Travis in the bar, to me, it seemed more about Bay and Emmett, than Bay's feelings for Travis. All Bay said to Emmett was, "Don't talk to him like that," and that was in direct response to Emmett's order for Travis to stay away from Bay.

I think what Bay was really trying to do is to inform Emmett he couldn't control who she joined. I don't think Bay was trying to protect Travis yet. Her eyes are on Emmett the whole time.

Will he act on these feelings? Or will they remain friends?

I think Travis will fight his feelings for Bay until the season finale, and then, he will go for it. If we receive a Season 5, it could be a full season of exploring Travis & Bay's relationship with each other. The thought of that bores me. I just don't feel anything between Bay & Travis, and I feel so much between Bay & Emmett.

What would a future relationship for them be like? Would it be different than his relationship with Mary Beth?

I think they could have a mature relationship, too. Travis isn't superficial. He would be gentle with Bay. Plus, she is a good person. Bay would be good for Travis, too.

How do we feel about Travis not telling Bay about Emmett's relationship and knowing she was using him at the bar but still going along with it?

I don't have any problems with that. Honesty is overrated in my opinion. Kindness is a far more important value to me. And if you can't let someone you care about use you from time to time, what's the point?

I don't think Travis will ever allow himself to be a doormat for Bay. And I don't think Bay will use Travis as one. I see him as more of her co-conspirator. She needs one after all she has been through with Emmett.

So, thoughts? Feelings? Think I'm completely crazy? Hate them as a couple and only want them to remain friends forever? Let's talk about it all!

I've been suspecting a Bay & Travis romantic relationship since we saw Bay talking to Travis in the bar, in To Repel Ghosts.

I don't hate them as a couple. It's nice that I believe they will both be gentle with each other. It's nice that I believe they could both be good for each other, at this point in their lives. Travis could be the second great love of Bay's life, if the writers want to take it there.

It will make things awkward between Travis and Emmett, for the remainder of their lives, though, if it happens.

I don't need Bay & Travis to remain friends. I don't care what they are to each other, really. I don't want to see Bay & Travis interact as friends or as lovers. I don't care for their chemistry together.

For me, watching Bay & Travis is a cerebral activity. I take in what is happening and process it. The story may or may not be stimulating on an intellectual level. But I feel nothing.

And I feel everything with Bay & Emmett, so for me, it is a shame that I do not get to see more of their interaction, especially with the series likely nearing its end in the next year or two.
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I'll get to around to answering the questions later, promise, but I found this in TVGuide's questions about this week in TV:

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Funny since I thought of the D/J/P right from the premiere when Bay & Travis were in the bar. I was like oh, yeah, it's going there.
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I'll get to around to answering the questions later, promise, but I found this in TVGuide's questions about this week in TV:



Funny since I thought of the D/J/P right from the premiere when Bay & Travis were in the bar. I was like oh, yeah, it's going there.
Hahaha...maybe that's why I've started leaning towards Travis/Bay. I am a diehard Pacey/Joey fan. And now that it's been put in my head, I can see it going there as well. But with half the drama because honestly, Travis and Emmett weren't as close friends as Dawson and Pacey.

And does that make Daphne Andy? LOL
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Hahaha...maybe that's why I've started leaning towards Travis/Bay. I am a diehard Pacey/Joey fan. And now that it's been put in my head, I can see it going there as well. But with half the drama because honestly, Travis and Emmett weren't as close friends as Dawson and Pacey.

And does that make Daphne Andy? LOL
Is Daphne Andy or Jen?

Haha. No, it's true though. What made the Dawson/Joey/Pacey triangle so heated was that Joey and Dawson had this very long history even before they became a couple where they were "soulmates" and yes, Dawson and Pacey were much better friends than Emmett and Travis. The three of them grew up together.

I was always on the Pacey/Joey side of the triangle too! In fact, there was an episode in the first season that features one of my favorite songs to ever be played on DC. It's the Double Date episode where Pacey/Joey do that science experiment together and he kisses her. I thought even then that they'd eventually do P/J.

Funny enough, Paul Stupin was the EP there and he is (was?) an EP for SAB, although I think he was more involved on DC than he is on SAB.

But yeah, I was making the comparisons to DC when I realized they were going there for sure. So when I saw that, I chuckled a bit.
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I'll get to around to answering the questions later, promise, but I found this in TVGuide's questions about this week in TV:
12 | Is Switched at Birth‘s Travis developing feelings for Bay shades of Dawson’s Creek‘s Pacey and Joey? On that note, can Dawson Emmett ever get back to his lovable Season 1 glory?
Funny since I thought of the D/J/P right from the premiere when Bay & Travis were in the bar. I was like oh, yeah, it's going there.
I go back and forth with Emmett's character and what the writers are intending with it.

Personally, I still find Emmett just as lovable as I ever did. But when I look at all of the hatred for him in social media, I have to accept that my love for Emmett might be because of a personal connection I've made with the character. Maybe others don't feel that way.

Do you all like Travis better than Emmett now?

For many fans, I do not believe there is much the writers could do to bring Emmett back to his lovable Season 1 glory. For me, he's still there. I see him as human and very lovable. I wish others did, too.

I do believe the writers could ameliorate the damage, a little, by showing a softer, kinder side to the character of Emmett, but it may not be enough for most fans to accept Emmett with Bay again.

Will more people root for Bay & Travis than for Bay & Emmett? Does that matter to the writers? Does fan support dictate storyline decisions? I wasn't around for the days of Dawson's Creek. Is that what happened there?

Is Emmett now as obnoxious as Dawson was then? Does Travis now have Pacey's same lovableness? Personally, I'm not feeling a connection to Travis. Are others?

I recognize that Travis has been a supportive, good friend to Bay. I see the potential for him to crush on her, but even that crushing hasn't been sold to me yet. Travis told Emmett (and us) he has feelings for Bay, but I am not sure if I believe it. I haven't seen it with my own eyes yet.

I never believed Travis's sincere feelings for Mary Beth either, though. He loved her, yes, but he never seemed in love with her to me.

Travis seemed mesmerized by Daphne for a while, but they never had a real connection either. I've never felt Travis's feelings run all that deep. He seems somewhat emotionally damaged by his early home life. That's what has made him so angry. Melody's maternal love has healed some of that hurt, but Travis still has issues. He could benefit from counseling. I'm just not in love with his character.

As for Emmett, in the world of social media, it's like everyone channels the queen of hearts, when they see him, and shouts, "Off with his head!" And I love Emmett so very much.

For storytelling purposes, Bay will probably experience Emmett coming back to her, at some point, but will she still want him? Will she choose Travis instead?

I don't know. The writers could go either way and make it entirely believable.

As much as I love Emmett, I cannot allow myself to believe for certain that Bay will choose him. It's too painful, if it doesn't happen.

Because I do love Emmett. I have an incredible love for the character. And I've been heartbroken so many times. I want to have hope, but I try not to allow myself too much. I don't want the story to break my heart.

As short-lived and filled with strife as it was, Bay & Emmett's love sure was magical in Season 1. I will always hold onto that.

If this story was real life, Emmett would probably never return to Bay. He would just fade away from her world. Although, in real life, Emmett's connection to Daphne might bring him back to Bay. That longstanding friendship gives Bay & Emmett an organic reason to reconnect that most couples do not have. Their paths will cross again. Maybe it will happen for them.

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Funny enough, Paul Stupin was the EP there and he is (was?) an EP for SAB, although I think he was more involved on DC than he is on SAB.

But yeah, I was making the comparisons to DC when I realized they were going there for sure. So when I saw that, I chuckled a bit.
Paul Stupin is involved with SAB, at least trom the tweets I am seeing.

Just 24 hours ago, one of the SAB assistants tweeted that "Lizzy Weiss is such an amazing and badass leader, though I like to think there's a little bit of Paul in all of us 😉."

Several of the SAB writers continue to tweet about Paul Stupin and his likes and dislikes. I see tweets after every episode.

Do you think that bodes poorly for Bay & Emmett? Does that mean, like on Dawson's Creek, that dark horse Travis will be Bay's OTP?

Cause my heart 100% belongs to Emmett.
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