Miranda

And it turned out the true..

And you can tell us "I told you so" cause you were right all along.






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Fangirl49

Lol. You know I love that quote. But I would never use it to make you guys feel bad.

Lauren Helen Graham

Yes, I was thinking about Marilyn right away bringing it over as well I was expecting it. Although it's a (for me at least) really depressing time for that one.

Red... Let us call him Red from now on because he actually isn't Raymond Reddington.

What I'm most curious about is... Is Jennifer Red's or Raymond Reddington's daughter?

Fangirl49

No I will only say that when it's something we can all laugh about.

I think Jennifer is the real Raymond's daughter. I believe all that to be true and she and Liz are half sisters.

Miranda

I know you wouldn't. But I just knew you were going to say it and honestly I would have been shocked if you wouldn't have said it. And you know what I said when Liz said that he wasn't Raymond Reddington? I was sitting on my bed and all I could do was cry and say: she's right. Marilyn was right all along.

ChakotaysLover

I'm gonna call him FRED! Faux Red = Fred! Lol!

Lauren Helen Graham

Yes, FRED! That's the name we should use But I really love Red and I'm not sure if Raymond Reddington was ever called that.

And yes, I as well believe that Jennifer is the daughter of Raymond Reddington. And that Liz and her are half sisters.

Miranda

Fred! I love it!

I do believe that Jennifer and Liz are the daughters of the real Raymond Reddington.

Fangirl49

That's an interesting thought. I wonder what the real Raymond was called. I'm with you. He was never called Red.

Miranda

Why do you guys think the real Raymond was never called Red?

Fangirl49

I have no idea but when kris said it, it just sounded so right.

ChakotaysLover

Well, Fitch usually called Fred "Ray" more times than he called him Red.

I think Fred stepped into Raymond's life, though we have no idea when the real Raymond died, perhaps Fred started the "Red" Reddington facade.

Fangirl49

I think Raymond died the night of the fire and Liz killed him. Wonder how Jennifer will feel about that.

I've always been frustrated at how S1 Red who remembered and grieved his family was suddenly dropped. I thought the writers changed their minds about Reds story and decided to focus on Liz.

Now I think they gave us those tidbits and then nothing so casual viewers would forget and this finale would be a shock.

Now we're back to the mystery of Red who he is what happened to him why is he doing this. How did he get the burn marks.

Lauren Helen Graham

You know, Liz said that Red is an imposter for 30 years now... Do you think she is just assuming that or that it's actually true? How would she know?

And I somehow think that Raymond wasn't called Red. I don't know why... I just want to use Red for our Red still

Nice thought about Red and his family. This could mean ballerina girl is either Liz nor Jennifer. It could be Red's own daughter? Right?

Miranda

Yes Tari, Fitch called him Ray a lot of the times.

I think it is safe to say that the real Raymond Reddington died the night of the fire because Liz killed him. So that means that Katarina was sent after the real Raymond and had Liz with him. Fred was also there the night of the fire I think because of the burn marks he has all over his back.