Sparklyhairnet

It's the same shot but in the longer BTS promo (over 4 minutes long) when Holly is saying that Lucrezia learns to distrust Cesare; you can visibly see the positioning of her hands. The tiny smile's interesting too though.

I sympathize with Holly though; she usually looks amazing and I think her body's about perfect, but when you have a lot of cleavage going on, billowing dresses can at times swallow your waist up. So it could be that, or the angle. If I saw her from a side view I'd be able to say more definitively if they were going for that. But even when Lucrezia was pregnant, The Borgias had very few shots showing her belly full on.

Katja82

Hey May, you didn't miss that much. We're just a bit speculating.

I think the scene in "Hanging with Holly" where she kisses Alfonso outside is a welcome back kiss.
And her hair looks like in the chest rub from "Hell bent".

Sparklyhairnet

Agreed. Which chest rub though? In the one where's she's rubbing his chest while he's in a white shirt, she isn't wearing a hairnet. In the armor scene, she is, and she's also wearing one when she's kissing Alfonso. I hope it is a welcome back kiss because that would explain a lot.

Katja82

Yes I thought so, but no hairnet? Damn...ok, than the armor scene.
That would probably mean, she is welcoming back Alfonso and saying goodbye to Cesare because he will be away for war.

DGSAFDMD

And did you noticed that Cesare is going up when they kiss? he's obviously staring at them.

I wonder if the scene where he's holding her neck is before or after he comes back? because he has scars, tho that could be due to another fight, remember we saw some BTS pics with Francois wearing those small scars? Micheletto's wig is in the game by then so that has to be 2nd half of the season.

Katja82

No I didn't notice him, but you're right.
And after he is in, we will probably get that scene:


But she is wearing a different dress and earrings than in the armor scene. And I think her hair is slightly different, too.

DGSAFDMD

It's completely different, so it's either later that episode or just another episode overall.

Paige Dakota

Yes, hopefully Juan's prophecy will come true! it must

Oh and DGSAFDMD in history Cesare got a lot of scars because he has syphilis and maybe he has the scars in the series also because of this illness, and not because of another fight... but i really have no idea if the scene where he's holding her neck is before or after he comes back..

DGSAFDMD

We considered the syphilis when we saw the BTS pics, but since Juan already had it and mostly for sure Rodrigo will too, maybe they're not going there with Ces yet.. also because he has not been screwing many chicks lately? at least on screen.

Paige Dakota

Yeah, I guess you're right

DGSAFDMD

So.. is anyone else thinking Ces is actually getting married on screen? he's about to do a chick that's wearing a veil, ya'll!

Katja82

Like I said before, better doing Charlotte than some random chick. But yes, it's possible we`'ll see his marriage onscreen.

DGSAFDMD

Also, Lucrezia is throwing petals at someone? when she's with Alfonso next to her looking at her all weird, btw.. I'm wondering if this might be Ces' wedding? or maybe he's going to war and she decided to throw petals anyway, dunno.

Sparklyhairnet

The petals (I originally thought they were doves lol) are after what looks like Lucrezia's wedding scene so I doubt it. Alfonso also looks at her weirdly in the Hangin with Holliday promo--he's laughing and she's not looking at him and suddenly he looks down. Either Seb is unaware of what he's supposed to be doing or that means something, lol.

BL.Arinna_1982

Maybe they're celebrating Cesare's arrival and Lucrezia looks a bit too happy? Or Alfonso might've noticed something going on between them already.