Cherishing M&L Evans #709: b/c this Max and Liz Shipper Thread was the very first Shipper Thread in all of Fan Forum. Legends only!
Welcome to the #709 Max & Liz Evans Appreciation Thread! http://web.archive.org/web/201504010...reamerban1.jpg ▌I could feel everything he was feeling... I saw me as he saw me, and the amazing thing was ... ... in his eyes, I was beautiful. ~ Liz http://i34.tinypic.com/32zm79i.jpg ♥ Dreamer Useful Links ♥ official F a n L i s t i n g s Soulmates Across Time&Space - Official Max and Liz Fanlisting Liz Parker || Max Evans (new one ) Shiri Appleby || Jason behr Liz's room || Liz's Journal Bob the jeep - Max's beloved car ----- dreamer W e b S i t e s The Definitive Dreamer Dictionary Dreamer Idolatry(livejournal community) Across Time&Space(Max&Liz @tumblr) Roswell the Promise Sweet Love - Max and Liz Shrine (italian) Cosmicdream Dreamer Art site || CosmicDream Max Arts Shrine || CosmicDream Liz Arts Shrine CosmicDream Dreamer Animations ----- dreamer F a n F i c t i o n s The Promise Dreamer Fanfiction Archive Transcendent Love - Max and Liz Fanfictions archive I Shall Believe Deejonaise Dreamer Fanfictions || Majesty's Archive EmilyLuvRoswell ------ http://i37.tinypic.com/nxu8oi.jpg Everything - Lifehouse find me here and speak to me I want to feel you I need to hear you you are the light that's leading me to the place where I find peace again you are the strength that keeps me walking you are the hope that keeps me trusting you are the life to my soul you are my purpose you're everything and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this yeah you calm the storms and you give me rest you hold me in your hands you won't let me fall you still my heart and you take my breath away would you take me in take me deeper now and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this cause you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything you're all I want you're all I need you're everything everything and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this and how can I stand here with you and not be moved by you would you tell me how could it be any better than this would you tell me how could it be any better than this http://i37.tinypic.com/w6zklx.jpg A Tribute to us Dreamers on The Cherishing Thread and our contribution to Fan Forum History ~Posted by our Fan Forum Administrator Jerry D~ Hi everyone! :wave: I don’t know if you all know this, but the Cherishing Max & Liz thread was the very first shipper thread in all of Fan Forum! I used to think the Dawson and Joey shipper thread on the Dawson’s Creek board was the very first shipper thread here, but the person who started that thread actually got the idea from this thread, so you Max and Liz fans (and I consider myself to be a Max and Liz fan) started a tradition of expressing your love and support for your favorite couple that has been copied on almost every board here, so bravo to all of you! :clap: I’m glad to see that so many people still post on this thread. :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "There couldn't have been a better way to end the series. The talented young cast make the most of their moments, with Behr and Appleby especially strong as the starcrossed lovers Max and Liz. When the two look at each other across the room during a moment of great danger, their look is so full of love that the moment is one that seems destined from the very first episode when Max saved Liz's life and we discovered how much he'd always loved her. And that's what this series was really about" ~Kathie Huddleston, SciFiWeekly ----------------------------------------------------------------- http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l1...7e1ho1_400.jpg ♥ ❝Quotes from Cast&Crew on Max&Liz (Jason and Shiri)❞ ♥
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dreamer W e d d i n g s ♥ Because even if they tried to change the future in the end they still loved each other and married in both lifetimes! Happy Anniversary Max and Liz! Proposal- (Assuming this was the Future Max timeline Max would give Liz his ring after Graduation according to Departure.) Max: I always thought when we graduated I would give you my ring. (handing her the pendant they found at Atherton's) It looks like I won't graduate, so this is something from where I'll be. Future Max Wedding- Took place in Vegas at a Elvis Wedding Chapel.Eloped at 19. Reception-Spent the night singing and dancing in some dive outside Phoenix. Wedding song- I Shall Believe by Sheryl Crow. If they had twelve days to live because they graduated on June 12th then Max might of proposed to Liz on May 31st or June 1st. Proposal- May 2002- Liz's Balcony in Graduation. Max made a homemade diamond for Liz from coal after seeing the trick done in the movie Superman III. Max: ...A trick I learned from Superman. Let's see if it really works. [Liz half way smiles, and is watching him, curious. He picks a charcoal briquette out of the cooker and encloses it in his hand. With great effort he squeezes it, and bright white energy emanates from his fist. After a moment, he wipes the object in his hand on the bottom of his shirt. Max slowly turns back to face Liz, then walks over to her. Holding her gaze, he gets down on one knee, and holds out the diamond he has just made.] Max: Liz... they're taking our home from us. ...They want to kill us... and... they might. ...But when I look in your eyes, I... I don't feel angry... or... deprived. ...I feel like the luckiest half-human on the planet. You're pure... you're... you're true... and... you're real. And right now that seems like the only thing that's important. ...I want to be with you Liz... forever. Liz: ...Forever may only be twelve days... Max: --Then we'll take those twelve days... (He places the diamond in Liz's palm and closes her hand around it.) ...and we'll live twelve life times. Max: ...Liz Parker... will you marry me? Liz: ...Yes. Wedding- June 2002 -We know this from Graduation because they graduate from West Roswell High on June 12th. Also Liz said she would marry Max after Graduation. The Wedding took place at the Desert Rose Wedding Chapel. Married at 18. Tribute Date- May 14,2002 when the final episode of Roswell called Graduation aired. Liz: Oh, and I guess I should tell you that... Max and I did eventually tie the knot. http://web.archive.org/web/201504010...ps5d8372d0.jpghttp://web.archive.org/web/201504011...psf1c5ed6f.jpg dreamer A r t s http://images2.fanpop.com/image/phot...89-800-600.jpg http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pho...51-800-600.jpg http://web.archive.org/web/201504010...-and-liz-1.jpg http://web.archive.org/web/201504011...mation3UL2.gif http://web.archive.org/web/201504011...ps8617bdee.jpg http://web.archive.org/web/201504011...z-Wherever.png http://web.archive.org/web/201504011...eyourself2.jpg ~ Future Thread Titles ~ -He couldn't be without her. -Her kisses made him feel heaven. -They couldn't bare to be apart. -She brought him back. -Liz couldn't give Max alien herpes....but Tess could! -She's his everything and he proved it with his life -In the show, all the books..their love is always amazing -Fate kicked "Destiny's" ass! -If the van's rocking, don't bother knocking! -Because she's the first image that people always saw into Max's mind. -Because wherever they went... they were there when they got back. -Because when he got his priorities in order, she was at the top of the list -Because every kiss and smile came as natural as breathing. -Because they are each other's destiny -Because she would go anywhere if it means being with him -Even after his body became dust, his soul still loved and only wanted her -Because when he came out from behind the tree, Liz was all he could see -Because he healed her with his hands and she saved him with a kiss -A couple who made all their dreams come true -He loves her and she loves him. It's the world to him. -Max is not a king, he's a throne where she can comfortably sit down - Courtesy Gloria - I love you and even when i can't see you in the day i see you in the night in my dreams - they could both feel what the other was feeling and that was amazing - because they're like one being, one spirit. stronger together. miserable apart. - "People will go to any length if they love someone" - David Nutter about them - because he'd die for her and he'd live for her - because with them the phrases "I'd die for you. I'd live for you" are a real thing - "I love that! He doesn't care about his "destiny". He cares about this girl. He loves her and she loves him. "- R.Moore - "They're very much happy together, regardless of the circumstances they're in." Jason Behr - any relationship you get into is complicated, especially true love, that one special person. - Jason Behr - Even when they were not a couple they were still allowed to profess their love for each other - They don't need to say I love you to show their love but every time they do it is always epic - because "Heart and Soul of Roswell has always been the relationship between them" - Ron Moore - because "They're Soulmates Across Time & Space" - Ron Moore - "Their connection works so well because it's very romantic in the classic sense of the word"- Ronald Moore - because she was his dream girl - because it was all just magic when he thought about her - because their relationship is based strictly on the heart. - Shiri Appleby - because We made a connection a connection a full on chemical reaction - because We made a connection, a full on chemical reaction by divine intervention. You're a shining light. - because You arrive and the night is alive, you are a shining light, you light up my life. - because There's nothing that we can't do beneath a canopy of stars - because You are the light that's leading me to the place where I find peace again. - because You hold me in your hands You won't let me fall. You steal my heart, You take my breath away -because How can I stand here with you and not be moved by you? -because You calm the storms and you give me rest you hold me in your hands you won't let me fall -If it isn't complicated he probably isn't a soul mate -"without you i couldn't become the person i am now." - Jason Behr __________________ dreamer A n i m a t i o n s http://25.media.tumblr.com/470fb7a7b...rzc4o2_400.gif http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lb...9sjmo1_400.gif http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz...9sjmo1_500.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o10_r1_250.gifhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o12_r2_250.gifhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o11_r2_250.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o21_r5_250.gifhttp://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o22_r1_250.gifhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o35_r5_250.gif http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o42_r4_250.gifhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o41_r3_250.gifhttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6...o40_r1_250.gif http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...3cllo1_500.gif |
Love the title...
To me, Busted and their action in the early part of Season 3 is all part of their journey. They couldn't commit, and find their happy ending if they didn't go through all the crap they did. Now, some of it was extreme. But then I think the Liz and Max of the Pilot, and Season 1. To steal a fake diamond, and to break into a convenience store with a gun would be extreme. But the Max and Liz who went through Season 2, and the grief of Alex's death and being pushed and proded... not that far fetched. Liz already had shown her degrees of criminality when she broke into the school for Alex's exchange documentation. And many other things they were pushed into doing, or did it on a whim without truly thinking the consequences... Now the convenience store robbery was a hard one because it was open all night. And they needed to get down there, to see if the ship was there... But still, the Bonnie and Clyde-esque of the mission was a way of making the stakes higher, show they aren't kids anymore. To make the parents suspicious. And not oblivious anymore...to the actions of their kids. And to send Max out on his own, and put some distance in his relationship with his parents. Which is the opposite of the close knit family he had earlier in the series... They all made mistakes. Made choices that could have gotten into trouble if they had gotten caught. So to me Max and Liz's decisions in the early part of Season 3 was not that far fetched given how things were going, and the extremes they were being pushed to... JMO! |
tftnt!
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TFTNT! :woot:
I think season 3 just could not live up to the circumstances. |
Yes I agree season 3 had to stat off different new net work and new season.
Love the new thread! |
:nod: but I do love their make out scenes in s3 :thud:
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They were no longer the kids they had been when Max saved Liz from a bullet, and it opened a whole new world for her, and them. They were different, older, wiser and making rash decisions all in the name of being pushed to greater heights, and not all of those decisions had great consequences. Alot of Season 3 was because they were on a new network, and the network didn't care about Roswell. And Katims tried to get the show back to a more Season 1 feel, and it was too late... |
I think the baby plot killed the s3/show, nobody cared about it.
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^^^^^^^^ How come they did not foresee the debacle ? is beyond me. :nod:
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I was so not into the baby :look:
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you and me :lol:
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So I think they tried to bring it back to Season 1 essence, but they were all older and had made choices that weren't that bright or evidence they were growing up, good and bad. They couldn't go back to the yesterday. They had to deal with the now, and the future. And unfortunately they were trying to push the pain and hurt away, and tried to concentrate on being together... Unfortunately it didn't help... But then nothing the show would have done in Season 3 would have saved the show, given UPN had no loyalty to it. Now the show could have a shot at being saved, but then...nope. They wanted Buffy, and they got Roswell as well and didn't want it and cut it at the first chance... |
Personally all of the bad story lines I blame the WB and the writers.
However the over all core story line of Roswell I loved so much it surpassed the bad storylines |
I blame JK he was the only one with the idea of the baby. Anyways,
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We will never know truly who to blame. Katims was the one behind the show, but the WB was making a lot of demands that season, because the show was struggling. And creativity, I don't know why did it given the show was struggling. It would alienate Max and Liz fans. At the same time you had the feud between Max and Liz in the wake of Alex's death which made fans even madder And then they go and write out Tess, and the baby... so the whole plotline was inconceived, and while it would give Max and Liz a lot to get over to truly reunite, with it hanging over their heads in Season 3.
It ultimately made Max and Liz stronger, but it was not a easy road to follow. Season 2 had a lot of interferance behind it... Love those clips. |
All that is true but he had the last word & let's not forget that tess was his creation ... and liz suffered accordingly.
Hottest couple in roswell. :whip: |
But orchestrated by the WB demands. He had plans to bring Tess in a Season finale reveal in Season 1. But the show was struggling, and was in danger and the WB demanded changes... So they brought in Tess earlier than planned. And made it more conspiracy, and dangerous there at the end where they were figuring out what it all meant...
It worked, ratings improved a bit and the Tabasco sauce campaign saved the show. But it didn't help in Season 2 as the same happened again, although I think ratings were slightly higher... But the network was planning Smallville for following season, so they thought they could get rid of Roswell... But UPN wanted Buffy, and they got offered Roswell too... And they took it. But only had loyalty to Buffy, and cut Roswell at the first chance... Both Max and Liz suffered. Liz had the better excuse. Max didn't. He was a teenage boy fooled by his hormones. Neither looked good during Season 2. And Max at times in Season 3. Liz always had the better excuse.... "For the greater good, for Max's sake." She sacrificed a lot. And then in the wake Alex dying. She was doing it to make sure Alex's death was solved, and for the truth to come out... She never imagined the killer would be that close, or the truth and consequences to be that brutal. |
I've heard the WB wanted them as a group to investigate Alex's death, but they used that plot to crap the group and of course Max/Liz. So I guess it was 50/50.
Liz and Max/Liz deserved better. |
I hadn't heard that. I would think if they had, the show would have done it. Given the show was in it's dying weeks on the WB. But they did get a investigation, just Liz and Maria with Michael walking the thin line between both camps and it cause conflict within the group. And in some ways, there is story in it. Someone was dead. Someone in the group. And it pushed a lot of button is all of them!
And they had to figure out a way through it. And the show brought it back full circle to "End of the World". I think Colin wanted off to do the movie right after the show wrote him back in after a earlier leave. And so the show decided to go into a bigger storyline, as they looked into bring angst for all of them. There was a lot of drama behind the scenes. I don't think Katims had the creative freedom that we think he did when we was at the WB. A lot of the demands on him came from the network because he didn't have the ratings to back him up, and the show suffered for it. Especially in Season 2. |
But Katims had the creative freedom in s3, right? and those first episodes of it were an insult....
Amazing gifset! :thud: Liz loves to be in the top ;-) |
Well he was at a new network, and trying to entice the viewers. But then I love "Busted", and he did show the ramifications of all that happened in Season 2. It could have been much better, but then you had to figure out how to move on after that happened in Season 2, and all the angst and pain.
I think Katims was trying to get it back to the essence of the first Season. But so much had happened, none of them could go back and they had to figure out how to move on. |
Loking back now I can't think of a better opener. it was full of action, romance, and suspense.
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