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Old 07-01-2014, 07:49 AM
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Season 4 Discussion #33 - Because they had nothing to hide

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Old 07-01-2014, 07:52 AM
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Thanks for the new thread, Deborah.

Let the discussions commence this instant!
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IDK…there was a little too much attempted hiding!
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IDK…there was a little too much attempted hiding!
Yup, definitely too much!
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Great title ~ although I'm a little sad to see the last one go, I loved it!!!
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I know…the last one was a good one. Then again…aren't they all?
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I know…the last one was a good one. Then again…aren't they all?
They are .. we always have brilliant titles! Just .. that one made me laugh every time I saw it!!!
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Would someone like to discuss any particular episode?
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Would someone like to discuss any particular episode?
Such a busy season .. so much happiness and sadness ... but how bizarre was Christmas in February?

I realise that grief and guilt does the strangest things to people but it wasn't a recent request from Vic ~ as Em pointed out!

It was good though to see Darren back on form as Shanda Lear ~ he was lovely!
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I really want to discuss 4.06, because though it's a rather unsettling episode for me (Vic dying & Brian's diagnosis), it's one of the more pivotal ones also.

I've said it time and time again. The fight that was had between Vic & Debbie was beyond stupid because life's too short to be that mad at somebody over something so ridiculous. A cautionary tale that says always be careful of what you say, because you can go on to regret it. Which is exactly what happened to Debbie. Oh wow, I felt so bad for both Vic and her because they didn't get the chance to ever bury the hatchet. Cowlip was being cruel here.
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I really want to discuss 4.06, because though it's a rather unsettling episode for me (Vic dying & Brian's diagnosis), it's one of the more pivotal ones also.

I've said it time and time again. The fight that was had between Vic & Debbie was beyond stupid because life's too short to be that mad at somebody over something so ridiculous. A cautionary tale that says always be careful of what you say, because you can go on to regret it. Which is exactly what happened to Debbie. Oh wow, I felt so bad for both Vic and her because they didn't get the chance to ever bury the hatchet. Cowlip was being cruel here.
I think CowLip may have been a bit over the top in the whole Deb/Vic falling out but s**t like that happens ... and it is a cautionary tale because you just never know.

But I can also never watch Carl trying to help Deb by talking about his wife's death without being in floods of tears. No argument there, just that she died alone when he promised she wouldn't.
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I think CowLip may have been a bit over the top in the whole Deb/Vic falling out but s**t like that happens ... and it is a cautionary tale because you just never know.

But I can also never watch Carl trying to help Deb by talking about his wife's death without being in floods of tears. No argument there, just that she died alone when he promised she wouldn't.
Yeah, I agree. It was terribly sad, but it served a purpose. Besides, I always think that, if Vic knew about everything (in the afterlife Brian imagined ) he wouldn't be mad at Debbie. Of course she must have felt horrible...
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I think CowLip may have been a bit over the top in the whole Deb/Vic falling out but s**t like that happens ... and it is a cautionary tale because you just never know.

But I can also never watch Carl trying to help Deb by talking about his wife's death without being in floods of tears. No argument there, just that she died alone when he promised she wouldn't.
That scene always brings me near to tears

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Yeah, I agree. It was terribly sad, but it served a purpose. Besides, I always think that, if Vic knew about everything (in the afterlife Brian imagined ) he wouldn't be mad at Debbie. Of course she must have felt horrible...
Well, that's true too.
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Yeah, I agree. It was terribly sad, but it served a purpose. Besides, I always think that, if Vic knew about everything (in the afterlife Brian imagined ) he wouldn't be mad at Debbie. Of course she must have felt horrible...
That was the point Carl was making! He felt enormous guilt at not being there when his wife died and he said that ... but he also said that she would have forgiven him .. HE was the one who couldn't forgive himself. It was the same with Deb and the argument .. it wasn't Vic she was mad at it was herself.
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Debbie would do nice things for people, then she would use it against them when they didn't do what she wanted or expected. The things she said to her brother were terrible.
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