nj2013

KeepThisaSecret

TFTNT!
Don't forget to add thread 7 into the previous threads.

annad13

Ok I leave this on the previous thread so if someone wants to carry on talking about Lydia

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I just want them to trust eachother...especially Lydia, I think she really needs someone to talk to, and I think Stiles is the perfect one for that because Allison has to many things going on in her life (besides she never seemed to have time to listen to Lydia -.-) and Jackson...well he is the Kanima haha I think that he has enough with that and I personally don't think he would take the time to listen to her.
I just feel so bad for her...everyone wants to protect her by hiding things from her and now with all this "Perter is back" thing I don't know what is going to happen



Can't wait for tomorrow episode!!!!!! The title is great!! thanks for the new thread

bonnie51

moving right along... I might not have television or internet tomorrow night capability but anyways...

Its like a double shot of a sledgehammer right now...

1. I don't want the season to be almost over

2. Right now I have a really bad feeling about things. Nothing I've come across recently really feels me with great confidence.

If I happen to be right I apologize in advance... I may have one of the better internet meltdowns Fan Forum or anywhere has ever seen.


As for Lydia .... right now I do think the chances are good that she will end up working with Peter next season. I have a sneaking feeling that he's the new "big bad" of Season 3. Or one of the big bads.

quin0611

Tftnt! I think Peter is going still going to be one of the big bads of season 3 too!

mr.weber01

Hi, nj2013,

Thank you very much, for open up a new thread.

Markus


Hi, annad13,

I have said it in the last thread, but I would like to say you very much again, for putting up one of my favorite Lydia and Stiles moment.

I love the scene in episode 2x04 Abomination, where Stiles saw a crying Lydia inside her car and tried to consolate her by saying "You look very beautiful when you cry". "There is nothing you could say to me, that make you sound crazy, literally nothing".

I still do not understand after everything happened to her, why they still think it would be better to left her uncertain.

I think, if they told her truth, she would have properly told them about her visions of seeing Peter again, which could prevented her from resurrecting Peter again.

Markus


Hi, bonnie51,

I hope, you will still find a chance to watch Teen Wolf, because I would love to hear you thoughts of tomorrow's episode.

I also cannot believe, how fast this season will be over.

I am also very concerned that she will end up working with Peter.

I am still hoping that their connection will be now over, because she did what he wanted by resurrecting him.

Markus


Hi,Quin

I totally agree with you.

Peter will cause some hug trouble for Derek and Scott.

Markus

ciaBrysh

Thanks for the new thread!

Chasing Fireflies

TFTNT

bonnie51

It wasn't me but this person makes an interesting case for why they think Jackson might die.

The main characters are Scott, Stiles, Allison, Lydia, Jackson and Derek. It’s obviously not Scott—this isn’t Game of Thrones. And Jeff Davis knows he needs Stiles. We need Stiles. NO ONE would watch 24 episodes of Teen Wolf without Stiles, no matter how naked everyone else got. Holland Roden and Allison are the only two female leads (sorry Erica) so I doubt they’ll go. And Jeff hinted that he was working on a love interest for Derek come season 3. I haven’t heard anything about Jackson’s season 3 future.

Teen Wolf kills off its bad guys and murderers. Both Peter Hale and Kate Argent were the “bad guys” of Season 1. They both killed a lot of people and they both had to pay for it with their lives. Kanima Jackson has killed a lot of people, so it makes sense that his character would have to pay for that. As will his master.

Jackson and Lydia were only meant to be guest stars, so if Jeff had any big, long term plans for Teen Wolf then they wouldn’t have factored into it.

I don’t think it’s a matter of Jeff not wanting the character around, but a matter of the actor moving on to bigger things. Colton Haynes has been hinting at getting involved in bigger projects, and the increased order for Teen Wolf might not give him time to do this.

Colton is THE WORST at not giving spoilers, and in a Comic Con interview he said there’s some sad stuff coming up for Jackson. Death is sad. Also, he said something like “and we’ll see if Jackson lives or dies… or if the other characters live or die.”

If you’re Jeff Davis and you know one of your main actors is leaving the show, you would give him a big freaking send off. Colton keeps saying how exciting his story arc is this season, how it’s never been done before on TV, etc. That might be him expressing how grateful he is to have a good last few episodes.

annad13

I don't even know why I still feel he won't die but I just feel it hahaha hopefully I'm right

And about Colton moving to big projects I don't know...I mean Dylan has been doing movies and he is still on Teen Wolf...I don't know which are Colton's big projects (because the only one of the cast I've heard with a big project is Dylan) and I hope he gets MANY because he totally deserves them but I don't think that will make him leave the show idk

bonnie51

yeah... but that does happen a lot. Maybe not here but a lot of times actors want to leave and then they're killed off/written off.

I go back and forth on whether or not I actually think they'd kill him off.

If you took everything he said at face value, it wouldn't sound good. But you never take what anyone says at face value when giving spoilers so it might be a misdirect or something...


it just he is really the only one we haven't heard anything about for Season 3 who isn't named Scott/Stiles/Allison. Those three are "untouchable" IMO.

Derek-we have some idea somewhat.
Lydia- Holland has given us some great insight into what might happen.
Jackson-??????

He is the only one of the 6 that I could probably say " yeah, okay, makes sense" somewhat given that really, after this season, what do you do with him? What's left?

I'm a firm believer that when a character as achieved their purpose in a show they need to go. I hate seeing great characters linger around and become mediocre characters and IMO, there's a chance of that happening with him.

I honestly just feel like sometimes Jackson's story is almost done. He's something supernatural, going to have to deal with his parental issues at some point and now has the power/strength he's always craved. Everything they gave us about Jackson in Season 1 has been dealt with in Season 2. He's the only one of the 6 I think we can say that for.

We still don't know exactly what Lydia is.
We don't know what her connection to Peter is.
We don't know if she'd side with Peter or not.
We still haven't met Scott's dad.
Does Scott ever try to become the alpha and take that from Derek?
How dark is Allison going to go?
Will she and Scott continue to try to get back together at some point?
What will she do as a leader of the Argent clan?
How did Stiles mom die?
We know there are other survivors of the Hale house fire and we'll meet them sometime, where are they, who are they?
Where did Derek and Laura go after leaving Beacon Hills?
Would Scott ever kill anyone?

Most of the questions about Jackson have IMO been answered, save for whether his parents were murdered or it was a legit accident. And that may yet be answered this season.

We've seen him become something supernatural.
We've seen him become in Jeff Davis words "the bad guy of Season 2"
We've seen him kill people. ( as the Kanima being controlled, but still)
We've seen him hallucinate about his parents and learned more about that back-story.
Supposedly we're going to see him and Scott turn the page at some point.
We've seen him be more emotional and have something of a caring side at times.
We're going to see supposedly his connection to Matt still too.

I just wonder how much more story that character as to tell sometimes, as great as I think the character is ...

I hope you're right though. If I happen to be wrong I will be the happiest person on the thread...

as for acting thing, they might just mean that the actor might want to work on a bigger show or something? I have no idea.

mr.weber01

Hi, bonnie51,

I think, they can show more about the struggle he will face, when he will finally realize
what he has done and how he will react/redeem him self to his friends.

I am always being interested to know how such events will change a person.

I think, that not showing the impact such an incident of Jackson could have, would be very sad.

What do you think?

Markus

bonnie51

Hi Marcus.

Yeah, they could. I just think that most of the, uh, "juicier" stuff they dealt with all in one season. Its the down side of him being the main point of the season while not being the "lead" lead. Once that happens, you don't always have a ton left to work with IMO...

Even Jeff Davis said that they rushed through Jackson's story of what he was and took their time and really slow-played Lydia's this season and took their time.

The cynic and paranoid person in me wonders why they decided that they wanted to or needed to rush through.

I don't think that the show would be as good or the same without him. And I think that there's value in what the character brings to the show and the group... and I would love to see where the character would go from here... though I have a hard time seeing where he would go exactly. I mean, even if he does stop messing with Scott all the time, Scott already has a best friend in Stiles and a reluctant friend in Isaac.

I just feel like there are a couple options...
A) He dies
B) He lives but since Derek, Lydia were pushed to the back burner so to speak this season, along with a returning Peter and whomever the new bad guys are....

he becomes like Lydia this season. Maybe not talking to ghosts but not really... seen much.
Because while we have more episodes... we don't have more TIME, in a sense, since the episodes are still going to be the same length.

Because Scott/Allison/Stiles certainly are not going to be losing screen time any time soon.

quin0611

I I think Jackson is a good character & I hope he doesn't die either.

mr.weber01

I know, what you mean to lose a character is always pretty hard to accept.

I still cry over the death of Lexie from Grey's Anatomy.

He grew so much on me, because he is so much more than this typical teasing person.

He is in reality a lonely person, who uses his arrogance as a forcefield to hide him self from the others.

I think, when they are very clever they can bound him in the story without losing him, by showing him as a person who find a way to grow into strong caring person who can help Lydia to break her self away from Peter.

He could also become a person, who could Scott to accept his powers or use them in the right way.

I also think, it is very difficult to give every character the same screen time without degrading them to minors.


I find it always interesting, they find ways to keep Scott and Allision's relationship as the main center of the series, by degrading or maybe killing of every interesting character on the Series.

Markus