Couples - Scott Moir ღ Tessa Virtue ♥ #24 ~ Because his favourite thing about Vancouver was "Hanging with my girl, T, here." - Page 2

Full Hearts · 05-24-2010, 10:46 PM

I know, she's just so good at capturing their relationship. Not that I know for myself, but it just seems that that's how they would be.

And I like the sweeter, fluffier stuff (and angst too), but I don't always feel quite comfortable reading smut where these two are concerned; it depends on the reason for it - I don't like reading smut for the sake of smut, if that makes any sense at all.

mapleleaf · 05-24-2010, 10:51 PM

OMG, I went away for two days and now have to catch up on a whole thread!!! so... what did I miss...

mo_anam · 05-24-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Merylanna (View Post)

Here's a reminder of my own - things we assume are private are not private. I don't understand where the certainty about that comes from. Different strokes.

That Olympics holding pen video was public. It videotaped something in public. The skaters knew they were in public, knew people above their heads were snapping photos and videotaping. They are perfectly conscious of that, and how these things end up on the internet. If that were a problem for them, they wouldn't do it underneath the noses of fans leaning over the railings. Backstage is right there. Jessica could have been escorted a couple extra steps backstage. In fact, she could have gone down and around the normal way, not hauled over a wall, and had a truly "private" hug out of sight. With EASE. If that's what was wanted.

Patrick Chan is down there in that holding pen, Evan Bates, Debbie Wilkes (the public relations official of Skate Canada), Jim Virtue, ALMA MOIR (who I think snaps a photo of Scott and Jessica - she's snapping a photo of somebody just out of frame in the corner where S&J had just been seen), Marina, and others. Call it an assumption, but I don't think Jim Virtue was dragged over the wall of the stands, some time after things concluded. I believe he got down there like a person, through the backstage route.

I am all for respecting somebody's private life. Like stalking - following somebody when an appearance has concluded. Showing up when someone is off duty.

But. Nobody has hacked anybody's facebook. The facebook is private? Is that why it's on a public wall? The belief is based on believing or wanting to believe that people are oblivious to fan creep habits and fans are a minor issue in their lives. I happen to have a 180 degree opinion on that.

Bottom line: if chat boards happen to be discussing photos published on public facebook walls when the other attributes of that facebook are private or restricted, if chat boards discuss a hug in a holding pen where skaters are wandering around free but one skater has an escort and is then photographed while fans snap photos and video from above and the public relations person of Skate Canada stands off to the side - do we honestly believe these people are far too consumed with other important things to know it's being observed and will be discussed? If public figures don't want something observed and discussed, it doesn't happen in public. That's the bottom line, and I'm not using this to justify intruding on them at all, but as a reminder that they know what they are doing.

Anyhow, I am not lecturing as such, but this is pretty basic knowledge for anyone with any experience working withn and around people in the public eye ... at any level - local or national. Sports, politics, music ... anything. When you guys are at an event, you're off duty. These public figures aren't until they're in their cars going home. Anymore that we are "off duty" til we leave our jobs, if we work.

I hate to feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but I do want to respond to this quickly.

Yes, that hug that we discussed happened in an obviously public place, witnessed by many people, and obviously filmed by at least one person. I don't argue that this moment is fair game for discussion. All I'm looking for is that we are all as respectful as we can be in the way that we discuss it. We're a Tessa/Scott board, obviously we want to see them happy (ideally, together), and at the moment, it seems that Jessica is viewed as an obstacle of sorts preventing that from happening. Let's just remember that Scott is with her because he wants to be, and the relationship must make him happy. And I honestly don't feel that it's our place, as fans who truly don't know the situation, to be speculating on how long the relationship my or may not last.

I do draw the line at bringing stuff over from facebook, myself. Yeah, it's set to public, and both Scott and Jessica seem to be accepting friend requests with complete abandon, and they expect those that friend them will be looking at whatever they might post. I do not think they expect those people would post their pictures elsewhere. Maybe I'm being totally naive here, but posting their private photos- they're private enough that only friends can see them- to public forums and communities is blatantly disrespectful, to my eyes.

Additionally, there are those of us on here- though, obviously I can only speak for myself- who have chosen not to add Scott or Jessica as a friend purely because we don't want to see their photos, or their status updates, or whatever. Personally, seeing these things makes me uncomfortable. Those that have interest in seeing these things ought to just friend them, and then there's no need for that material to be brought over here, because those interested in it already have access to it.

As always, this is just my opinion, and there are always going to be differences of opinion, I just thought I'd throw some more thoughts into the conversation.

On a completely unrelated note- these votes for Everybody Dance Now are just breaking my heart. It is a simple program by their standards, to be sure, lacking the technical difficulty that sets their dancing apart from others. But this is their story, and I think there's something so wonderful and pure in wanting to tell their own story through an exhibition program, especially since it has been evolving for the last five years, growing and changing as they have. Charting this program through its iterations is truly lovely, and it makes me feel so proud of what they have accomplished as dancers, in a way that no other program of theirs really does. This is the program they chose for when they knew the whole world would be watching, this is what they wanted the world to see of them, and that makes it special. Also, the illegal Goose exit makes it pretty badass.

This is so hard. I'm going to have to vote for Assassination Tango this time.

AmericanDirrty · 05-24-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tsforever (View Post)

TFTNT Gladys!!

Can't believe we're already on thread #24! Do you guys realize we went through 3 threads in one week? We started the 21st thread last Monday for Tessa's birthday!!

Wow, that's crazy!! Yay!

Thanks for opening the new thread.

Full Hearts · 05-24-2010, 11:08 PM

^ No worries Kristen!

I hope we keep speeding through them, though it'd be understandable if we weren't quite as fast considering there's nothing new right now. But I always love having pages worth of catching up to do with this thread.

hackysack · 05-24-2010, 11:13 PM

Gladys, I think I get what you're saying- you're only ok if it moves the story along in some way? I'm a bit uncomfortable with TS smut in general, though I'm not gonna criticize anyone who likes it. It's just not my thing.

and Mo, I did vote for Everybody Dance Now and I stand by that vote, but I totally agree with you about watching them develop as dancers through it. I love its combination of sweetness and badassery.
Hell, it made it to the final seven, of course it's good!

Full Hearts · 05-24-2010, 11:32 PM

^ Yeah, exactly.

I definitely am not for criticizing anyone either, but sometimes it's hard for me to read even though I know it is fiction.

hackysack · 05-24-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Fate (View Post)

I know it's a sweet moment, but I don't like this pic. Tessa looks more like a doll than a woman, and there's so much of that weird netting showing on the top of the dress.

however, I LOVE this one...

Edited to give Great Gig some lovin:

moncoeur · 05-24-2010, 11:58 PM

WOOOHOOO!!!!! TFTNT!!!!

Look at that connection. Now that stuff doesn't grow on trees...you know what I'm saying....

I feel so out of the loop. I left the forum for 2 days to do my essay for uni (just got it in with a minute to spare and did 2000 words in 3 hours. I don't know how I am still standing

)

My bit of beef, I love T&S and I respect all of their personal decisions and behaviours eg facebook etc. I fell in love with their ability before I started shipping them as people. I believe that their connection both on and off the ice is incredible however I will not lose sight of the fact that they brought back my love of the sport first. Them being such nice people is just a bonus and something to admire. That is why I speculate and love all the shippyness of this thread!

Full Hearts · 05-25-2010, 12:07 AM

Well said Amelia!

And thanks for those pics!

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I know it's a sweet moment, but I don't like this pic. Tessa looks more like a doll than a woman, and there's so much of that weird netting showing on the top of the dress

Now that you mention it, it does look a bit like that!

But I love how close their faces are, how entranced they are.

And the ending pose in Mahler...

Still makes me furious when I think about the supposed "new rules" they'll be enforcing, if they go through that is, about kneeling automatically being considered a fall.

Hopefully they clear that up and it won't be that ridiculously strict!

beautytina · 05-25-2010, 03:28 AM

I downloaded the full NBC version of the oly free dance, and it has the Scott-tricking-Tessa-that-they-got-second moment in it.

I will try to cut this part out tomorrow and upload it to Rayfile.

PS: just finished a huge English project. and it's 3 in the morning...sighs.

Full Hearts · 05-25-2010, 03:33 AM

All the non-Canadians will love you a lot for that!

I should long be in bed too already but somehow I'm still here.

beautytina · 05-25-2010, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Fate (View Post)

All the non-Canadians will love you a lot for that!

I should long be in bed too already but somehow I'm still here.

*high five*

and

*fall over the pillow*

bogolisk · 05-25-2010, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Fate (View Post)

And the ending pose in Mahler...

Still makes me furious when I think about the supposed "new rules" they'll be enforcing, if they go through that is, about kneeling automatically being considered a fall.

Hopefully they clear that up and it won't be that ridiculously strict!

I thought it's only for "both knees on the ice"! But I might be wrong!

moncoeur · 05-25-2010, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by beautytina (View Post)

I downloaded the full NBC version of the oly free dance, and it has the Scott-tricking-Tessa-that-they-got-second moment in it.

I will try to cut this part out tomorrow and upload it to Rayfile.

PS: just finished a huge English project. and it's 3 in the morning...sighs.

Can I ask where you got the video from Tina? I have been trying forever to find a good one to download and I can't be bothered to wait 1 hour and 45 mins for Aunt Joyce's one to load.
Congrats on finishing!!! I keep forgetting how late it must be over there. Its only 10 to 9 here!

ETA: Bogolisk I'm pretty sure its both knees, I read the changes (took me forever) and that is what it appeared to be. I think its silly. Where is the creative license?

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