Season 4 discussion #14: Because they had to face their demons
 

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thanks for the new thread,Manu :)

got to watch some S4 asap ;)

that last pic with Lindsay, Gus and Brian :sigh:

I love how they have 3 completely different expressions :lol:

I wonder what Brian is staring at :lol:

Maybe he's staring into space wondering what he's doing in such a place :lol:

Could be :lol: I don't really remember the scene :goof:

I really love that Brian/Lindasy/Gus pic,even though I can't remember that from the show.

I adore the kid who playes Gus from S4 on.he is a spiting image of Gale,don't you think? :sigh:

He does look a lot like Brian/Gale

I liked this season. It wasnt my fav. but I enjoyed it. :)

Justins arc in the beginning was troubling because it wasnt him to be so angry and violent. But I understood it because they never really dealt with the bashing to the full extenet in previous seasons. I loved how supportive and worried Brian was about Justin. And still didnt tell him what to do he let him make his own decisons despite being worried for him :( Justin just felt so powerless and he needed to feel in control so I understood him. Cody was :crazy: Chris Hobbes is still a nastly human being. I still cant believe he didnt have an ounce of regret for what he did to Justin. Im glad that Justin got his revenge on him and I knew he wouldnt have killed him. Even though that scene was hard to watch. and Justins beautiful hair. :( I didnt really like how they moved so fast from that SL I felt they didnt resolve it good enough. I would have liked a BJ scene after Justin confronted Chris with the gun.

Brians cancer arc was good. Poor Brian :( I didnt like how he didnt tell anyone but I felt that was IC for him. :shrug: I hated how Michael after telling Justin to keep quiet just spilled the beans. Also didnt like how Brian hugged Michael when he found out but kicked Justin out after he found out. It just irked me that Justin got literally thrown out even though he kept quiet and Micheal got a hug :rolleyes: Loved when Justin told Brian how it was going to be and told him to eat the effing chicken soup. :lmao: I liked it when Brian got his mojo back and went straight to Justin :love:

I was so happy when Brian asked Justin to move in even though I already though he lived there :lol:

I liked the Liberty rid. Poor Brian :lol: One of the few BM scenes I liked in the series.

Hate Brians mom. Her and Chris Hobbes should just go jump off a cliff.

Omg hated Lindsay. I actually felt bad for Mel.

Gus was sooo cute.

Loved Emmet as usual :love: and Ted is always just amusing :lol: Really liked Him and Brian.

Loved Brian and Jennifer this season. Love how she likes Brian for Justin and can see how much he loves her son.

Brian and Daphne are always amusing because he hits on her.

Vic :(

I think that's maybe the hardest thing to digest for me. The bashing was terrible, the fact he got off without really paying was terrible, but the fact years later he didn't have any regrets is the real awful thing, because it means he never learnt anything. To think that a person like that can walk freely among people is scary.


I agree it was in character for Brian to keep quiet about the cancer and deal with it all by himself. We know how much he dislikes pity and how afraid he is of people seeing him as any less than perfect.
It hurts really bad when he kicks Justin out. But even though it can be annoying that he does that to Justin but not to Michael, I think I understand why he reacted differently to the two. The main reason is that I think he really believed Justin would leave sooner or later, while I don't think he had the same fear about Michael. So when he realized Justin knew, I guess he thought it was just a matter of time before he would be dumped. And Brian being Brian, he prefers for things to happen immediately, instead of waiting for them to happen later (just think about how he pushes Justin to leave in S2). It was a crappy thing to do and I'm glad Michael called him on that. But I really don't think his behaviour was the result of loving Michael more or being more understanding towards Michael than Justin. I really think it was a matter of fear. Actually, I think it is maybe the proof he loves Justin on a deeper level, because the closest someone is to you, the less you want them to see you in certain bad conditions. I think it was easier for Brian to be sick in the eyes of Michael than those of Justin.


Definitely not Lindsay's finest moment. I hate how these two go and cheat on each other when a child has just come/is coming. First Mel, then Lindsay. One thing that gets Mel my respect is that when she was the one cheating, she confessed, while Lindsay was just caught.

I think Brian kicked Justin out because he didn't want Justin to see him as this diseased person not to mention Brian didn't want anyone's pity especially not Justin's.

Lindsay cheating was definitely not her finest moment and as I've said before that just confirms to me that she's bisexual.

Yeah, her sexuality seems more fluid than Mel. Mel is definitely a lesbian, while Lindsay isn't so stuck on it. I wonder how much of it though is the fact she really is attracted to man, or is the fact she has that little dream inside herself of the perfect like she mentioned she imagined to have with Brian.

That's a good question :nod: in that aspect of having a fantasy she is similar to Justin :lol:

Except Justin was lucky because he was a man and so he had a real chance with Brian :lol: