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Old 12-01-2021, 05:10 AM
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Written by Ashley Wigfield; Directed by Pamela Romanowsky

When Obie’s mother comes to town, Zoya begins to question his nature – and nurture.
Julien’s decision to take her brand to the next level leads her down a path of self-discovery.
Kate’s personal and professional lives collide at full force. Aki and Max come together to support Audrey.
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I liked the episode, overall, it was full of stuff and we saw more about the characters - Aki especially! I couldn't wait to see his parents and well, I loved him already but now even more. He's such a beautiful soul, he's the one of all Menzies sons who truly loves his father and he really, really supports everyone even when they don't deserve it. I adored the scene with his mum, he's her boy and she's there for him (offering to go with him to say goodbye to his dad surely because she thought what if he say something homophobic to him?). For me she's the Akimax ship captain, too even more than Gideon. Anyway this scene made me think of what I remember was said in an interview with a Rise actor, Ted Sutherland. He played a closeted and catholic gay teen and once he said that often mothers know things about their children that they, the kids, aren't even aware of. In a Rise episode in fact his character's mum, while fighting with her husband about their son, accuses him to hide behind religion to prevent Simon (the son) to be who he really was. And Simon had never talked with them or her about his feelings. I can see a similar thing with Aki and his mum here.

His dad is but how cool is that they had Malcolm McDowell playing him! I wonder what secret he meant about Julien

The fact that he was outed many times in this episode was terrible. And the only one who apologised (even though I feel his was the least hurtful one, I didn't even perceived it as outing since they were talking just the two of them) was Max, who even promised to not tell anyone. You know these are the tiny moments that make me ship them even more, it's in the details, I feel there's more attention for them than the other combination of the throuple.

Audrey was ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry I can't stand her and now everutime I see her I'm like SHUT THE F UP, BLONDIE. I have zero sympathy for her, at this point I wonder really if that's an acting problem, because her situation should make me feel sorry for her and be like oh, but she's living a tough situation, but NO, I can only see her being mean and absolutely unbearable towards everybody. She outed Aki in front of his parents and a minute later she was like oh but it wasn't my fault, I didn't even want to come here. WTF. She has always that "I'm a terrible person" coming out of her mouth, but at this point I think it's more a pose than anything. Safran defends her saying that she's going through a lot, but I don't care. That's not an excuse to act like she does, she apologize but it always sounds fake imho. And even all the Emily, Evan and also Safran talking about how supportive she is and how much she loves Aki and how beautiful their relationship is and how Aki is lucky to have her, I wonder if they're aware that it doesn't show in the episodes. Everytime I read or hear such stuff I'm like am I watching a different show from what Emily and Evan doing? Aki would be really lucky if he got rid of her, honestly. He's better off alone or with anyone else, even a random girl or guy.
The only moment I liked her in six episodes is when she takes Aki's hand, when he's clearly unease at listening to his father homophobic opinions.

Max really fired guns at Rafa, didn't he?? Rafa is disgusting as usual, sneaky as the devil. I liked Thomas saying that people should be worried for Rafa and not Max the sex tape, oh well! Even though yes, Rafa deleted it, but Max still has it on his phone, so? You can't imagine how I loved the way Max talked to him, saying he'd rather ******* nobody than ******* him and that he'll make sure no other senior falls in his trap. I'm still thinking at what Safran said about this, that it's interesting that for Max it wasn't a problem until he thought it was just him, doing that with Rafa, but when he found out there had been others as well, it wasn't that okay anymore. This surely tells us something about him.
Despite me not liking the throuple, it was nice to see him helping Audrey.

The threesome thing. Honestly I don't know what to think of it. I mean it was hot for sure, but I think that maybe they shouldn't have spoilered to us before the show even premiered. It took the "fun" away. I wonder if they really had sex, though, it seems we'll find out in episode 7? I'm an Akimax shipper, so I was more focused on them and it was true what Safran said, that you can really see each character acting the way they feel about this, in that moment. They did an amazing job. You could see Aki's reaction was different from Audrey's. I absolutely love the way Max always grabs his head when he kisses him. He does it with Audrey too, here, but it's less noticeable and short.

The Zobie thing ugh, it's kinda boring. It's a classic triangle, but he's really annoying! I'd like to know what kind of girl he exactly like, since it seems he's never happy with the one he has. Maybe he would have liked a throuple with Zoya and Julien. I'm not surprised he kissed Julien again, it was pretty clear that he still had feelings for her (same for Julien).

Kate and Nick, what about NO. The other teacher made a fair point at saying that if you want to play God, then you'll have to take the consequences of that and i think it's an interesting thing to see in the show. Although probably the last one the target audience of this show is interested into I admit that this episode was kinda slow with the adults stuff, except for the Menzies/Bergmann one. I usually like the teachers, but this episode I was like give me the teens!

And now we have to wait until November for the 1b! Hopefully they'll keep us updated with social media stuff and such.
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Wow that's a tease if this was the half way point of the episodes.

Ugh this episode was a mess. It was good but also bad or showing characters in bad lights. As I expected they can't just let Julien & Zoya be sisters. Stupid love triangles & Obie just no. They both should just go find someone else as right now he's cheating on his girlfriend with his ex. & they are sisters. Julien is also bad for kissing her sister's boyfriend too. This is not going to get anyone into a good place.

Audrey I don't know. I am on the fence with her. Worrying about a love one can make you do crazy things. However abusing hospital staff is a no for me. They are, at least here anyway, already overworked & underpaid so I have no respect for anyone behaving like that towards them. I don't care how worried you are about your mother. But I did love her showing that she can actually care about someone other than herself so maybe she isn't completely selfish. Doubtful, but maybe. Outing Aki though, ugh, again fence. I agree with you Ilaria, but I also can see that she had a lot on her mind & slipped up. Accidents happen. But then what she was saying in the bathroom to Zoya, it is hard to accept it. Add in that she's not brave enough to just admit what she did to Aki. Then worse instead of apologising & telling him, she instead sets up a threesome. What, does that make what she did ok? That her actions led to his father outing him (wrongly) publicly & using it to make himself look better too, are somehow justifiable? However - also as you said - she held his hand in support against what his father was saying . A rare time to actually see that she does care about him & see something between them.

Now Max you are adorable trying to fight for yourself, protect your parents, & being there for Audrey. All brilliantly done. I can't say more than what has already been said.

The teachers are annoying but I did like how they have balanced everything GG related out between them all now. Kate & Nick were cute, but it was better they weren't involved. It would only get messy. Then I still don't know if I like her character. I don't like the male teacher (so much that I block out his name ), & his actions towards her were petty. He may have been right but he was mainly doing it out of jealousy & hurt that she turned him down in the previous episode.

Now this threesome I don't know. It can be true, but it can also give bisexuals a bad name. The way it is done makes me feel like Audrey was giving Aki a man to sleep with to make up for her actions. As if he needed a man to make it all better or she couldn't do it on her own. That isn't necessarily their intention with it, it may just be their way of starting up their throuple storyline but that's how it came across for me.

Then the parents are a bit of a mess. Probably for the best they're not in their children's lives all that much. Loved seeing Julien's father supporting her. Then Aki's mother bless her going about things the right way. She doesn't straight out ask him, but is there for him if he wants to tell her the truth. She'll support him & wait for him to be ready to come to her even if she already knows.
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Wow that's a tease if this was the half way point of the episodes.

Ugh this episode was a mess. It was good but also bad or showing characters in bad lights. As I expected they can't just let Julien & Zoya be sisters. Stupid love triangles & Obie just no. They both should just go find someone else as right now he's cheating on his girlfriend with his ex. & they are sisters. Julien is also bad for kissing her sister's boyfriend too. This is not going to get anyone into a good place.
Midseason finales are always a mess and we had to wait more than three months for the next episode! I wasn't surprised about Julien and Obie, it was clear that the feelings were still there. That being said, they've been wrong at cheating on Zoya, the only thing that they made right was Obie stopping before sleeping with her. It would have been so so bad. In this episode I started to ship Jobie, anyway

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Audrey I don't know. I am on the fence with her. Worrying about a love one can make you do crazy things. However abusing hospital staff is a no for me. They are, at least here anyway, already overworked & underpaid so I have no respect for anyone behaving like that towards them. I don't care how worried you are about your mother. But I did love her showing that she can actually care about someone other than herself so maybe she isn't completely selfish. Doubtful, but maybe. Outing Aki though, ugh, again fence. I agree with you Ilaria, but I also can see that she had a lot on her mind & slipped up. Accidents happen. But then what she was saying in the bathroom to Zoya, it is hard to accept it. Add in that she's not brave enough to just admit what she did to Aki. Then worse instead of apologising & telling him, she instead sets up a threesome. What, does that make what she did ok? That her actions led to his father outing him (wrongly) publicly & using it to make himself look better too, are somehow justifiable? However - also as you said - she held his hand in support against what his father was saying . A rare time to actually see that she does care about him & see something between them.
Also the way she replied to Zoya when she was just trying to be nice (and Zoya also lost her mother). Abusing people is a no for me too.

As I was saying in the ep 5 thread, Audrey makes one step forward and two steps back everytime. I just can't. They way she blamed Aki for being outed because she didn't even wanted to go to that dinner, I was fuming. She'll never apologise for that, byt the way, not even in later episodes and personally I found that unrealistic, since it must be clear to Aki that she was the one outing him.
The hand thing was the only thing I've ever liked of her in an entire season, so


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Now Max you are adorable trying to fight for yourself, protect your parents, & being there for Audrey. All brilliantly done. I can't say more than what has already been said.
Max is so loving, I like that of him.


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The teachers are annoying but I did like how they have balanced everything GG related out between them all now. Kate & Nick were cute, but it was better they weren't involved. It would only get messy. Then I still don't know if I like her character. I don't like the male teacher (so much that I block out his name ), & his actions towards her were petty. He may have been right but he was mainly doing it out of jealousy & hurt that she turned him down in the previous episode.
You don't like Jordan?? I find him hilarious True, he acted out of jealousy, but in the end he was right and made her think that you can't play God only with the kids, that you're in this as well. Surely these teachers have a lot of grey zones, which I like, because it would have been not so realistic otherwise.


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Now this threesome I don't know. It can be true, but it can also give bisexuals a bad name. The way it is done makes me feel like Audrey was giving Aki a man to sleep with to make up for her actions. As if he needed a man to make it all better or she couldn't do it on her own. That isn't necessarily their intention with it, it may just be their way of starting up their throuple storyline but that's how it came across for me.
I read other people, back then, saying that she set up a threesome for him, but I never had that impression, honestly. She fantasizes about having sex with both since the pilot. She needed to think at Max to reach climax while having sex with Aki, she knew Aki liked him too so it all was born from that. I always thought she was thinking of her own excitement, more than Aki's. After all she almost never apologised to Aki for the way she treated him, so why she would set up a threesome for him? You'll see in ep 7, together with flashbacks of this, that she'll feel awkward for liking the threesome (same for Aki). I don't think it made bisexual look bad, why are you saying that? As far as I know usually threesomes are bad for women, because they're always represented as greedy and nymphos.



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Then the parents are a bit of a mess. Probably for the best they're not in their children's lives all that much. Loved seeing Julien's father supporting her. Then Aki's mother bless her going about things the right way. She doesn't straight out ask him, but is there for him if he wants to tell her the truth. She'll support him & wait for him to be ready to come to her even if she already knows.
Jodie is I need more of them, Aki is even cuter when he's with his mum. Anyway except for her, yeah, parents are a mess in this reboot too Roger is (fun fact: Malcolm hung out with Evan and Eli while he was on set, like they even went out for his birtthday. Evan loves him and is so inspired by him, he feels so lucky he's playing his father! He's a cinema icon!)
About Davis...I liked him until this episode, but then
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I don't know. Jordan feels sleazy to me just rubs me the wrong way with some of his actions. Sometimes he's nice though. It was mainly these two eps that I really didn't like him

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She'll never apologise for that, byt the way, not even in later episodes and personally I found that unrealistic, since it must be clear to Aki that she was the one outing him.
tbh she probably saw her actions as an apology so didn't feel the need to do one verbally



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I read other people, back then, saying that she set up a threesome for him, but I never had that impression, honestly. She fantasizes about having sex with both since the pilot. She needed to think at Max to reach climax while having sex with Aki, she knew Aki liked him too so it all was born from that. I always thought she was thinking of her own excitement, more than Aki's. After all she almost never apologised to Aki for the way she treated him, so why she would set up a threesome for him? You'll see in ep 7, together with flashbacks of this, that she'll feel awkward for liking the threesome (same for Aki).
I can see that side of it too, but just within the context of the episode since she did seem to start to beat around the bush on admitting what she had done, then she set this up? Could've been a selfish move on her part. Could've been an apology. Could've been both.


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I didn't mean that this exact moment necessarily made bisexuals look bad. I meant that threesomes in general can. Because bisexuals supposedly are greedy, can't pick, need both, cheat, like threesomes, ect. Some people just can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that anyone can want & enjoy a threesome, it has nothing to do with sexuality. So in having a bi & pan character involved in a threesome could be seen as playing into that myth that bisexuals/pansexuals want threesomes. However for some that is what they like so it is also good that side of things is represented. It all depends on how you look at it. You could also look at it & see there's three different sexualities involved in it & see that it had to do with the people & not their sexualities (one would hope)
I've had at least one person who new my sexuality ask me if I've had a threesome & if I'd want one. I highly doubt they go around asking that question to everyone, it was only asked because of my bisexuality.
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He's as sleazy as the other teachers, I think I don't know, I liked him from the start, he's funny even if he's horrible as the other teachers (but trust me, you'll soon see teachers way worse than him!)


No idea, I never felt the threesome as a way of apologising, in episode 5 the fact that Aki liked Max was her last thought and she prepared the dinner for both of them. I saw that more as a selfish move which was liked by both guys, though, so Aki agreed immediately to that.
The Akimax kisses are like they're just another level for me.


Oh, I see your point. I guess that's why they introduced this since the beginning as an idea and it took six episodes to happen, so it could not give that impression. Max is immediately introduced as a teen pansexual who has a lot of casual sex (and he's not new to orgies as well you'll see), I was more worried about, but even in this case, it seems to me that thet wrote the whole thing properly, regarding this aspect. Did you feel differently?

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He's definitely not the worse. Far from it. I just didn't like him, mostly in these two episodes. I can't put my finger on the right word for him, sleazy was just a guess. I wouldn't call the others that personally. At least not at this stage. Except for Rafa

The whole dinner/threesome could've been an apology & a thank you. Or just a twisted way for her to get what she wanted. Who knows...

I can't comment on one scene. They've written both characters well so far. I like what they've done. Unfortunately there is always going to be one person, regardless of how they write it, who will go 'of course they're doing that, they're bi/pan'. Disregarding the fact that there's a straight woman involved in the mix & that polygamy & threesomes have nothing to do with sexuality.

Thankfully I've seen enough stories of myths & experiences of others to expect some of the stupid questions but seriously some people
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He's definitely not the worse. Far from it. I just didn't like him, mostly in these two episodes. I can't put my finger on the right word for him, sleazy was just a guess. I wouldn't call the others that personally. At least not at this stage. Except for Rafa
Rafa is the worst Jordan has his moments, but I still appreciates him he surely often convices Kate to post things she maybe would not, but he has a soul, you'll see.


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The whole dinner/threesome could've been an apology & a thank you. Or just a twisted way for her to get what she wanted. Who knows...
I vote for the latter but still I think it was somehow "improvised", like she wanted to, but she hadn't planned it, she just took the chance, sure Aki would have agreed.

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I can't comment on one scene. They've written both characters well so far. I like what they've done. Unfortunately there is always going to be one person, regardless of how they write it, who will go 'of course they're doing that, they're bi/pan'. Disregarding the fact that there's a straight woman involved in the mix & that polygamy & threesomes have nothing to do with sexuality.

Thankfully I've seen enough stories of myths & experiences of others to expect some of the stupid questions but seriously some people
Oh well, that's for sure. But as far as I've seen, I didn't catch such comments, so far, so maybe there's hope?
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