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jediwands 09-08-2006 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by My Angelai
Luckily since I didn't live through the Creek saga I'm a little less pessimistic about LL ending up together on GG. The way I see it is there were some PJers around that somewhat kept the ratings up for DC. But there are so few CL fans, fans of Deadbeat, or fans that aren't for LL. I'm guessing JJs are a good 80-90% of the fan base and most despise Deadbeat entirely, its not just hate for CL.

You're right on, this is totally true. Stupid actually had a great number of people believing in PJ in fact, that fanbase was big, well, much bigger than the CL fanbase. There has to be an overwhelming difference in percentage between LL and CL. Your 80/90% range sounds dead on, I would even lean to the 90%. And yes, so true, it's not just about being anti CL, the Deadbeat hate is through the roof.

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Not only that but CL have been a trainwreck since the beginning and are clearly wrong for each other.
Precisely. This show has yet to slide from that theme. Even with the mess we're currently in, CL are still being portrayed as a trainwreck and not meant to be. Honestly, this theme has existed since day 1, since the minute he pulled up on his motorcyle like a 16 year old boy and said that ridiculous comment to Lorelai, right in front of his daughter, about taking her shirt off. Nice. CL and Deadbeat have always been portrayed one way and that's it. NEGATIVELY.

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Isn't that what the show has been about. Lorelai not settling for his a$$ and instead raising Rory single. :confused: Very few want to see Lorelai end up with that piece of trash. I have faith DR and Rina know this, just like ASP knew. My biggest fear is having LL reunite 5 minutes before the show ends, a la RR from Friends. :mad: :rolleyes:
With you. I do think that no matter what DR and Rina have complete understanding of this. I don't feel like they'll slide too much from ASPs vision, I think we're safe, I'm still slightly uncomfortable (thanks Creek) but when really thinking about it, it only makes sense they are on the same page as ASP and well, on the same page as the real story of this show. CL being meant to be has never been a part of it and I think the future episodes and the rest of the series for that matter will continue to demonstrate this.

The last minute reunion will suck and unfortunately, it could be a reality. You're right though, this is the biggest worry actually. No doubt.

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Yeah I hope so too, I do. I hate that Rina thinks the only thing that is interesting are these lame OOC romantic triangles that never happen in real life. Its such an overused plot on TV. :rolleyes: But like you Im hoping for some respect like she always gave Everwood.
I will never understand her triangle obsession. I don't understand why she loves it so much. It's cheap, lazy, unrealistic writing more times than not. Why go there? I think it's probably the easy way out which pisses me off even more. Instead of being creative and keeping the meant to be couple together (LL) while constantly coming up with ways to make their romance interesting (it wouldn't have been that difficult to do!) they go the triangle, soap opera route instead. Less thinking and creativity that way. Wonderful.

Yeah, I do think the respect factor is in our favor though. Rina did respect the story of Everwood and especially the love story between EA. Never did she do anything too stupid, she always kept it in line and preserved so much about what made this show and that pairing so amazing. I hope she remembers this as she gives her two cents about LL, CL, and GG as a whole.

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It makes me sick to think Lorelai isn't smart enough to realize Deadbeat is a deadbeat and their friendship/relationship (whatever it is) is so demented. Hello shes 40, has raised a kid alone, and runs a business. How can she not see Deadbeat's idiocy??? Its so obvious to everyone, including his own daughter. :rolleyes:
Hell yeah. It's disgusting. So overplayed, so draining, so ridiculous. Time to move on already!

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I have faith its only a matter of time before they get closure for good this time.
God I hope so. I'll rely on your faith to get me through.

Shira81 09-08-2006 09:15 AM

This CL thing is just so stupid, the fact that Lorelai can never see how much of a screw up Dopey is just makes me dislike Lorelai even more.

colorblind 09-08-2006 10:11 AM

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This CL thing is just so stupid, the fact that Lorelai can never see how much of a screw up Dopey is just makes me dislike Lorelai even more.
she was always dumb when it came to relationships with men. it's not strange that in her 40 years she didn't get married. she has to decide what and who she wants. i love her, but sometimes i just want to slap her. it's good that it is not possible through comp.

Shira81 09-08-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by beautifullauren (Post 11836543)
she was always dumb when it came to relationships with men. it's not strange that in her 40 years she didn't get married. she has to decide what and who she wants. i love her, but sometimes i just want to slap her. it's good that it is not possible through comp.

Yeah sometimes I want to slap her too. And I love Luke and sometimes I want to knock some sense into him. But I have believed for along time thats boys are stupid so I just expect more from her then Luke.

dancer150 09-08-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paula San (Post 11809911)
didn't really get the High School part but for the rest: HEAR HEAR!! \o/

:lol: That was me, I hate High School. Too tiring, up till 1 doing AP Bio, and the school is too huge.

cloudmymind 09-08-2006 02:08 PM

man, why can't Dopey go away?!?!?!?

my mom was watching an old episode with the DVD's we have, and it was PLG :sick: stupid Deadbeat.

anyway, i hate Dopey and C/L, that's all i have to say right now...

dancer150 09-08-2006 03:51 PM

I wish Dopey would go away.

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ravenb 09-08-2006 07:11 PM

After WBB i just can't understand how she just let him back into her life so easy in season 6. :shrug: Even after he yelled at her because of what she said about his kid.

gilmorefan91 09-08-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenb (Post 11843451)
After WBB i just can't understand how she just let him back into her life so easy in season 6. :shrug: Even after he yelled at her because of what she said about his kid.

ITA. He is constantly being thrown "Get out of jail free cards" and that needs to stop if Lorelai wants to move on. She needs to see Chris for his true deadbeat self.

xmonalpx 09-08-2006 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gilmorefan91 (Post 11843831)
ITA. He is constantly being thrown "Get out of jail free cards" and that needs to stop if Lorelai wants to move on. She needs to see Chris for his true deadbeat self.

exactly!

Why is she commiting that sort of emotional suicide... hey i like that(the phrase) :D

FuzzyCerts 09-09-2006 02:39 AM

I thought Dopey was gone after WBB. Look how wrong is was. Stupid, stupid ASP.....this is not drama, this is crappy drama...

ravenb 09-09-2006 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gilmorefan91 (Post 11843831)
ITA. He is constantly being thrown "Get out of jail free cards" and that needs to stop if Lorelai wants to move on. She needs to see Chris for his true deadbeat self.

:nod: I hope that one day she does.

colorblind 09-09-2006 04:37 AM

she is so bad with that kind of relationships that i don't know if she will ever get what kind of an idiot chrisss is.

FuzzyCerts 09-09-2006 06:27 AM

Hopefully one day Lorelai will come to her senses....

maplezbear 09-09-2006 08:23 AM

I hope she comes to her senses as well. But one would think that after the fiasco in WBB that she would have learned her lesson and saw how he ends up ruining everything and she gets took down with him... no matter what it is


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