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Old 10-22-2015, 06:18 AM
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E P I S O D E D I S C U S S I O N
Extreme Measures
Season 3 Episode 3

Air Date E! Online Canada: Thursday, October 22nd at 8pm
Air Date CW: Friday, October 23th at 8/7c





MARY AND FRANCIS FIGHT FOR HIS LEGACY -- When King Antoine unexpectedly returns to Court, Mary must help Francis hide his weakening condition long enough to secure his family's future. With the Throne in jeopardy and time running out, they must turn to an unlikely ally in need of redemption.


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Old 10-22-2015, 06:36 AM
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King Antoine returns I know a few people who will be happy to see him on the show again

Catherine kinda reminds me of mad King Henry in the promo
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Old 10-22-2015, 07:24 PM
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TFTNT, Issi! I'm one of those people that's thrilled that King Antoine is back. I'm not excited that because I particularly like his character...because I don't. At all. But, I'm looking forward to how his return to court will shake things up and propel storylines forward. (Not that I want certain storylines to propel forward...but you understand what I mean. )

I agree, Catherine seems so scary and out of control in the promo!
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:19 AM
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One would hope Antoine's return would mean more Bash involvement given his escapades and vendetta against Bash from last season (though I should probably expect the writers to forget that ever happened)
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Old 10-23-2015, 03:29 AM
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I haven't watched the episode yet but I saw some spoilers on twitter...

Lola and Narcisse married oh well... let's see if she will regret it later.

I'm surprised Francis actually allowed it since he said he doesn't want him near his son or near Lola...

Catherine's free... so if I understood Mary gave her another chance and asked her to help her with Elizabeth...? Of course, why would she do it otherwise if not to help her..

I have absolutely NO IDEA what happened between Leith and Claude but I'm so excited because they had some scenes and he was shirtless and she was with him aww I shouldn't ship it but hell I do

Also Frary fans: Francis is alive another episode and he survived and so many were worried about that.
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Old 10-23-2015, 04:45 AM
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Lol is Bash still hiding in the non existent storyline purpose box? Or does he do something like maybe punch Antoine in the face?
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I don't know haven't watched it yet but there's a live stream. I think I'll be watching live since I'm awake at 2AM

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He'll bring Delphine back to save Francis eventually.

Mary's like "take me instead of Francis" yea please, kill Mary instead!

OMG Catherine's so badass again!

she's like "I will look after Mary and protect her" same she said about Diane when Henry died and yes, we saw what happened..

The scene with her and Francis though broke my heart!

Lola & Narcisse wedding
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Am I the only one monumentally disappointed that we didn't get Bash punching Antoine in the face? I really wanted a scene like that
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So I just finished watching live and my thoughts are still an incoherent mess. But here they are anyway.

Frary is just bittersweet perfection. I mean...STAY WITH ME. I just need more time with these two.. PERIOD.

GO FRANCIS! Killing Antoine's guard and getting him to sign away his family's claim to the French throne. That's my warrior king.

CATHERINE'S BACK!!!!! Blackmailing Elizabeth and risking her life to protect her children. She's amazing, and I'm so happy that Mary convinced Francis to let her back into their lives and be a regent for Charles when he's gone. It was a really sweet mother/son scene. I believe her when she says she will look after Mary. She will look after all of them.

Lola and Narcisse got married! You know I'm not a fan of Narcisse. And I know I should feel that Lola is making the biggest mistake of her life. But...I actually appreciated how this all came about. How Lola reconsidered accepting Narcisse's proposal because she values Francis' wishes and she wants what is best for her son. How Narcisse helped Charles and Francis saw that maybe he does have some nobility and honor - and maybe he wouldn't be such a terrible influence on his son. It was all pretty sweet actually. If Francis and Lola can see the good in Narcisse, maybe I can try? I just hope that Catherine is able to move forward and not cause too many problems for these two.

CLEITH! We actually have Leith shirtless and admitting to Claude that he is starting to have feelings for her! I understand his hesitance...he doesn't want to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Oh...And yeah, I would have liked to have seen Bash have a confrontation with Antoine. He did have him followed and discovered his dealings with the English ambassador/spy though. But..then he went off hunting the supernatural killer in the castle and the village again. I'm hopeful he'll be in the castle in the next episode, though. We know he'll bring Delphine back to save Francis.

OH, and is anyone else relieved the whole Mary/Charles engagement is off? Because that was getting awkward.

That's it for now.
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Old 10-23-2015, 06:56 PM
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They seriously need to keep Bash at court, his scene with Mary and Francis is by far my favorite and only proves how much better everything is when he is actually interacting with others, those three being all family and protective and scheming together is what I loved so much about this show.

I love the bros joking with each other and Bash being all he won't leave Francis' side when Antoine is here and wants to handle him while Mary calming him down and saying she will do it.

This is what makes the show great and they need more of these moments when these characters actually act like they know each other and aren't just a bunch of strangers not even in the same galaxy much less the same room.

The trio has always been my first love of the show, I need those three being badass and politics plotting together more!

I did laugh when Bash said "let me handle him" about Antoine because it's like Torrance is saying, let me have a storyline, and basically Mary saying no, she will handle Antoine is like no this is my storyline haha!
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Yeah, I guess Mary did kind of shut Bash down in that scene. But I can understand her reasons for not trusting Bash around Antoine.

I adored that Francis/Mary/Bash scene, though. This trio was my first love on this show, too. They're amazing when they are working together.

Bash telling Francis he looked like Hell. And then telling him he wouldn't leave his side while Antoine was at court. My Frash. I need more of that.
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Yes let's talk about shirtless Leith....Can we have more of that please.....

I liked the Claude/Leith interaction. I really am liking them more than I thought I would. I still am highly disappointed in Greer and her choices...but whatever. I find it amusing that the Queen of France is best friends with a Madame, and Greer's girls work at court....

I loved all the sweet and bittersweet frary moments. All of the moments....

I'm actually glad Catherine is out of prison, and I'm glad that Mary is kind of the reason behind that. Finally realizing the Charles is not a good match for her because the alliance is not what is protecting her home country...it was Francis's love.

I am not of a fan of Narcisse and Lola...but he did prove himself helpful to Charles in his time of need.

I liked this episode better than last week's but it wasn't as good as the season premiere in my opinion.
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Lol I suppose she can't trust either Bash or Antoine around each other, they might stab each other and it'd be a blood bath

The trio is the logos, ethos, and pathos of the show, and when they're operating together with their heads together, it's so awesome, I mean, when they took down Tomas in early season 1, that's the kind of trio work that I miss so much. They uses to scheme so well together when they were young than now as king, queen, and deputy

Frash is so needed, and I love the look Mary gave when Bash said Francis looked like hell, that was such a motherly scolding look that I remember she gave him back in season 1 when he was practically falling asleep on the throne

I am glad tho the next week promo actually shows that this Delphine chasing isn't all for nothing as it finally ties into the main plot

One question, they had Mary talk about marrying the king of spain, wasn't Francis' sister Elizabeth married to the King? Like did we somehow skip over her death or return to court? I'm so confused
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:40 AM
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Cleith Cleith is killing me, they're too sweet I can't even


Catherine and Henry's daughter Elizabeth married King of Spain, Felipe. I don't know why he is looking for a wife because Elizabeth died 8 years after Francis by giving birth to twins makes no sense to me that he's looking for a wife when he has one



Catherine was so not honest when talking to Lola and Narcisse she's gonna make their lifes a living hell, oh and I'm so looking forward to see it. I only hope she's not thinking she still loves him

Yes, finally Delphine is useful but tbh I don't think she'll make it. I don#t think she can cure Francis

Wow that was kind of a surprise to me that Mary decided not to marry Charles and convinced Francis that Catherine will protect the Valois line

I loooved the last scene of Catherine and Francis it broke my heart
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