EndlessღLove

Sister Jude I love AHS btw

I think we haven't see the last of Victoria's evil side. She will definitely come for blood. I mean, Daniel will get her out of the hospital, right?

jenaya

Probably, or maybe even Patrick. But she has actually been officially institutionalized there because of Dr Banks so that means she could be there for a few months at least.

I don't think Ems ever 'loved' Daniel, not true love. She cared for him and felt compassion because of his background but that was as far as it went IMO.

Against_all_odds

If his secret hasn't come out,then yes. It won't be for a few episodes, though.

Kyls

The thing is that we don't buy it and take issue with the writing. And people are entitled to that. I don't think this needs to be a war. We just see things differently.

Which is why they couldn't do that to Jack. He couldn't be the guy that fuelled Emily's revenge in S4.. he'll be her happiness at the end of all of this.

experience

Loved the finale! A little sad that Aiden is gone. I did like his relationship with Emily the most out of the three of them. I haven't really cared for Jack&Emily since season one so let's see where it goes.

Very true! I am shocked Victoria was the one to kill him with a hands on approach, though, but as you say, it's not like she hasn't done something like it before. To say it is out of her character, like others have, is ridiculous all in itself. She is not a nice person and seeing her screaming at Emily while she walked away at the end was brilliant. The seasons in the making and it was awesome.

I do hope, however, that we see Victoria next season. She is such a captivating character and, as evil as she is, she is grand. Her actress is too. Surely Emily will stop by every now and then, right?

Oh, and David Clarke is alive... Maybe. It could have been a dream sequence. Having Conrad freed, by the security guard who despised him and wanted him dead by his own hands might I add, and stabbed by no other than David Clarke... A little convenient.

Not sure what I think about him being alive if it wasn't a dream, however. It could really turn into something special. I'm optimistic about it. The producers have said that they had a four season line up since the beginning. This isn't something they just tossed in at the last second for some extra views, but something that was planned rather early.

Also, I just wanted to point out that David never told Emily to go seeking revenge for him. He never told her to do what she did. Emily did that on her own accord, to fill an empty space inside of herself. Actually, it was David who told her to do the opposite. He told her to forgive, something she wouldn't hear of.

My final thought... Was it possible that David said to forgive, not the Graysons and everyone who framed him, but himself? Victoria might be right. David was not the man we see in the flashbacks. He might be more twisted and sick than all the Graysons put together.

Just my thoughts.

jenaya

Yeah but it's still a bit contradictory. Victoria always has seemed to feel guilty of what happened to David (you see her present face after flashbacks in S1) and now suddenly she knew he was a bad apple all long? And the producers have basically confirmed Conrads death was real. I think David orchestrated the whole thing and the Jail guard was his henchman.

Israfel

lol how is david still alive? puh-lease
and on top of that he killed conrad in cold blood? smh (man, conrad is a dck, but he is a character i love to hate, gonna miss him)

i really don't like that the whole premise of this show is getting ruined tbh, they better have a darn good explanation on that front, but how explain the inexplicable?

didn't give a sht about daniel/margaux blah blah, kinda sad that aiden died that particular way even though i never liked him much, jack with the popo through charlotte was predictable so, idk the highlight was emily getting victoria into the ward, now that was a twist. (i won't call david being alive a twist, because that seems more like a stinking con for now)

jediwands

The second she said "I love you" to him, I knew he was a goner. I knew it. I already felt like he was dead in the finale a few episodes before this one but that ILY clinched it for me.

I really think it was lazy writing because it just didn't add up at all. Emily wasn't like that with Aiden up until this point. It's so lame that suddenly she was acting in this manner. It was all for extra drama and entirely unrealistic.

It's very, very possible. I bet you are right.

In all true honesty, I do feel sorry for the Emily/Aiden fans because the way Aiden died was horrific. Wow, I never expected it to be that brutal. It was really drawn out and heartbreaking if you were a fan of Aiden and Emily/Aiden. Of course, I didn't feel much since I was just glad he was getting off the screen. I have to be honest here.

But yes, I did think of the shipper group because that death was bad.

The concern I have is that they will now make it seem like Jack is the second choice. Why that bothers me is because if you watch the series and follow Emily/Jack, you know that's not true and will never be the reality. Still, in a way, I think the better route would have been keeping Aiden around (for as much as I can't stand him) and showing that whether he lived or died, Emily was going to end up with Jack.

I love what you said in another post about how poetic it was that the day Emily finally gets revenge for her father's death (well, fake death now lol) is the day Aiden dies. That's because his role is no longer in play anymore. I think that speaks volumes and proves that they were not meant to be. He was meant to help her with her plan until the very end but beyond that, nothing more would transpire between them.

It was beautiful.

I know! I hope that David is not in his right frame of mind, he's brainwashed or just totally crazy right now due to everything that has happened to him. Otherwise, I will never be convinced that this guy is not, deep down, the same father Emily once knew. There's no way. Something has happened to him right now and hopefully it's only temporary.

Chiqa

Don't worry, J/E shippers. Next season, Emily will make declarations about how Jack is the true love of her life.

jediwands

Well, that's the thing. I think both Aiden/Emily and Jack/Emily shippers will agree that there were endless signs pointing towards an eventual Emily/Jack romance. That has been in play since day 1 and there hasn't been a season that has ignored this. There has been slow build up for that. This was happening regardless of whether or not Aiden lived or died.

I am not saying it's a given that Emily and Jack end up together and that's already set in stone. For all I know, she could have ended up with Aiden at the end of the series. We don't know. But I think if everyone is honest, it's obvious that Jack and Emily were going to be explored romantically regardless.

revengefan@07

Everyone was so great last night, but Madeleine Stowe rocking it!!!!

cassandrann1

I like your idea and hope it's correct! But... reading the article, Sunil keep saying things like "and, obviously, David Clark himself is back to clear up a lot of the things that have happened to him in the last 20 years" and how they will explain him being alive and Emily dealing with that... it seems like UNFORTUNATELY David Clarke is really alive... although I am still holding out hope that Conrad is still alive too!

cassandrann1

I don't think Daniel killed the prostitute? Gideon said he paid her in coke and she didn't know her own limit, so it sounds like it was an accidental overdose (if Gideon was telling the truth).

cassandrann1

Yes I considered the same thing, then I thought, it's Revenge, somehow (when it serves the interest of the writers) the characters know exactly how everyone else will react to events they set in motion and how to get other people to do exactly what they want them to do (or will even know beforehand what other characters are planning to do so they can thwart the plans!)...

cassandrann1

I completely agree. I am not a Jack/Emily fan, but I never really believed her connection with Aiden. Someone said he always supported her and was always there for her, but I remember (after Aiden found out Colleen was dead), he walked away from her when she needed him. They were able to walk away from each other too easily on multiple occasions. I don't feel like she treated Aiden like she loved him, she just used him when it was convenient or she needed someone. I don't remember when it was, but I think she came to her beachhouse really upset one time, and he was there, and they slept on the couch. The next morning she told him that he didn't mean anything to her, he was just physically there when she needed someone.