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Nice post, Jess. I know I already responded to you in the Bellarke thread, but I’m glad you posted all your thoughts here, too.
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And I don't see Becho as an "obstacle" to Bellarke either. Not only does it not fit with the writing style of the show, but I also don't think Bellamy is in love with Clarke. There's never been anything to suggest that Echo has any reason to be jealous of Clarke. And since they've now been together for a full season plus I don't see the writer's having planned on killing Clarke down the road just to undermine Becho. __________________
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I don’t think Bellamy has a plan yet, either, which is fine, because I know I sure as hell wouldn’t have a plan if I were in his shoes. But to me, there was nothing more in character than Bellamy attacking Russell as soon as he was released. That’s the most emotional, impulsive Bellamy right there, one that he backed off on because because it wouldn’t have done any good, and he is still a smart guy, and he knows this. I also find it interesting that he didn’t go after Josephine herself. She’s awful, but she’s still wearing Clarke’s face. He couldn’t attack her.
All I’ll say in regards to shipping is that, not that I needed any more proof, but this episode once again proved to me that Bellamy loves Clarke so deeply. I will save the rest of that discussion for the Bellarke thread, where I feel more comfortable discussing it. |
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He must, or at least someone does, come up with a plan eventually because there's a clip of Bellamy from the season trailer taking a gun from a locker.
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Random thought when I saw a GIFset of Bellamy choking Russell: Josephine really is one stone cold MOFO. She was ready to kill Bellamy in a heartbeat because he wasn't going with the plan ... so I don't get why she would cut him loose, and be willing to sacrifice her father to placate someone she was ready to murder, like 5 seconds ago. Especially given that Russell was SO desperately trying to bring her back. Did she do it just for kicks then? __________________
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I think she just wanted her dad out of the way since he’s challenging what she’s doing. Her father is a bigger threat to her than Bellamy is because he has more resources to fight back against her. And also, she’s smart enough to know that Bellamy can’t hurt her since she’s got Clarke’s face. AND if Bellamy had killed Sanctum’s leader, he probably would have been a dead man walking after that, so she would have likely hit two birds with one stone there.
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This is a really good breakdown of it, I suggest you check it out: https://www.canva.com/learn/what-is-the-golden-ratio/ An example of why they appear in nature? If plants want to maximize the exposure of their leaves to the Sun, for example, they ideally need to grow them at non-repeating angles. Having an irrational value guarantees this, so the spirals we see in nature are a consequence of this behavior. All these distributions follow logarithmic spirals, the general mathematical form of a golden spiral.x __________________
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Yes, Lisa. All I have to say is yes. And I love that you used the phrase “out to lunch” in your post.
Hmm, Brooklyn, I suppose it’s possible that she never intended to kill Bellamy, maybe just to threaten him. But I actually do think she was going to, until she saw a better option. Your post made me wonder . . . if she had killed Bellamy, do you think Murphy still would have kept his alliance with her? He’s the only one out of Spacekru I could see possibly still doing that, but I would like to believe that, even though he wasn’t emotional about losing Clarke, losing Bellamy would be crossing the line for him. |
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I really feel like the writers started with the end point they wanted and then tried to work backwards from there. Like they wanted to get into a situation where Bellamy and them agree to go along with the Primes. But there isn't actually a good way to justify that. So we get this convoluted nonsense with Murphy and Josephine manipulating him and then his inexplicable capitulation. This is like the definition of plot-driven rather than character-driven, imo. Speaking of convoluted, you're right about Becho. I'm pretty sure the writers did not consciously plan to put Bellamy and Echo together in a fairly healthy, supportive relationship for two seasons, and then kill Clarke so that Bellamy will realize he's not in love with the person he's been happy with and committed to for several years now. I think the writers probably just chose to make Becho a couple and that's it. Quote:
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Yeah, he's lost her before. And I would think that, if anything, this time around he would still hold some kind of hope that she could be saved. Her body is still there. The first time she "died," she had been destroyed in a fiery apocalypse. I wouldn't have expected him (or anyone, really) to so readily accept that Clarke is irrevocably dead forever. Not when they're all looking right at her. This situation just doesn't seem very dire compared to what they've all experienced before. I feel like Abby illustrated this pretty well when Josephine told her she could save everyone and she just looked really confused and was like, "do we need to be saved???" All things considered, they're safer and more comfortable than they've been in years. |
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