[April7739]

#2 - Alexa, Sarah, April, Kenni, Lee, Steph (6)
#6 - Ana (1)

[Stars Fade]

#2 - Alexa, Sarah, April, Kenni, Lee, Steph, Adie (7)
#6 - Ana (1)

[Leelith]

I think we know what one is going to be out.

[Alexa]

you people drive me crazy asking about number 1, lets just wait til we get there. it ruins the fun when people tell their favorites. I haven't even thought of mine yet, eliminate the bad ones first...

and jason shut up. that 2nd tweet wasnt necessary. i wish he didnt care bout the haters so much.

[Stars Fade]

you people drive me crazy asking about number 1,

All i want to do is hahurrr to your face.

Jason could shut down his twitter. I'd feel better that way.

[April7739]

Oh, I agree, Alexa, I don't want to know which one people like most. I just wonder if I'm the only one who has a clear favorite, but I don't believe I am.

[Leelith]

I never said what mine was.

[destroyer of worlds]

Originally Posted by Stars Fade (View Post) All i want to do is hahurrr to your face. Jason could shut down his twitter. I'd feel better that way.

I don't mind either, he's been really inactive anyway though.

I'm finally going to catch up with the last one and a half threads. While I do, another meme:

The role models for an ideal love come from our parents. Clarke and Bellamy are dramatically influenced by their parents’ ideas of love. And if you look at their relationships with other people, especially each other, their parents’ ideals have a dramatic impact on their idea of love. Aurora was the idea that love means giving up everything, including your own self worth, and Jake/Abby were of the idea that duty means sacrificing love. Are we all forgetting that Abby betrayed Jake to save the world? Those are Clarke’s parents, people who will sacrifice love in the name of duty and that was who Lexa was. Clarke’s biggest role model for a romantic relationship are her parents and her parents clearly loved each other, but that love wasn’t enough in the face of duty. This is a key reason why Clarke was able to sacrifice her love for both Finn and Lexa, she knew doing so would lead to her being able to save her people. Everybody thinks that Clarke’s line about being weak is a direct result of Lexa and her theory that Love is Weakness, but it’s an indirect result of her parents and their idea that love can be sacrificed for duty - CLARKE LETS BELLAMY RISK HIS LIFE BECAUSE IT’S THEIR DUTY AS LEADERS TO PROTECT THEIR PEOPLE. And Aurora gave up everything including her body, prostituting herself to the guards, to protect O/Bell. So Bellamy willingly lets himself be tortured to protect the delinquents, throws himself over a cliff to save a girl he doesn’t even know and his body is not important to him. He gives his body up in service of protecting his children/delinquents. Bellamy will take whatever pain is thrown at him if it means relieving the pain for other people, including not letting people intervene when Octavia beats him out of grief. Aurora taught him that and her willingness to give up her body for her children taught Bellamy that his body can just be a vessel for pain if it means keeping those he loves safe. Aurora gave up her dignity and thus her self worth to protect her children, and Bellamy does the same. He commits reckless actions and lets other people blame him for mistakes that should not fall on him because he refuses to believe he is worth anything. This manifests in the way Bellamy and Clarke view and treat each other. After season 3, especially the finale, I don’t think we can deny that Clarke and Bellamy love each other, and that the show seems to be leading to a romantic confirmation of Bellarke in season 4. Now because Bellamy’s idea of love is to be selfless and to give and to give until there is nothing left of him, we see the overtures of his love for Clarke long before he even seems to realize he is in love with her. Bellamy is constantly giving his own body to protect Clarke without remembering that he needs protection as well. Bellamy knocking a guy out with the butt of his rifle in 1x11, the way he runs after her completely recklessly in 3x02, and wanting to shoulder the burden of Mount Weather and the eradication of people that were his allies to take away some of Clarke’s pain are examples of Bellamy’s love being about personal sacrifice. Clarke on the other hand hides her love of Bellamy, at least she hides the depth of her love for him, because her parents taught her that duty comes before love and, if need be, you must sacrifice love. The idea of sacrificing Bellamy scares Clarke very much, but she has a deep faith and devotion to him. Her continued belief in him through 2x11-2x15, the hugs in 2x05 and 3x13, the way she grabs onto his hand FOR COMFORT in 3x16, these are examples of Clarke finding faith and peace with Bellamy. She refuses to lose him because she scared she wouldn’t be able to sacrifice him if she actually admitted her feelings and doing so would mean she wouldn’t be able to fulfill her duty. This is exemplified by 3x02, when Clarke agrees to stop fighting if it means Bellamy will live. Her relationship with Lexa is in fact a byproduct of the relationship her parents had. Lexa is the personification of the duty over love idea, which is probably one of the reasons why Clarke forgives her and falls into bed with Lexa because she believes this is a relationship that she was meant for. Clarke knows Bellamy would let the world burn him alive if they ever actually became romantic and that type of all encompassing love scares the **** of her, so she stays with Lexa where the love she has is expected based on her parents’ idea of love. Bellamy and Clarke are created and informed by the ideals of love their parents showed them. But with each other, they are able to break free of those patterns and create new ones. And that is an aspect of the journey we see Bellamy and Clarke going on throughout the show, learning about what love truly means to them.

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Do you guys agree? Bolded the parts which I find interesting.

[April7739]

I'll have to read that later. For now, since it's 45 minutes into 2017 for me, I'd like to wish you guys all a happy and healthy new year!

[Alexa]

GOOD DONT SAY.

But honestly I dont even think about my top choice, i only look at what i want to eliminate LOL. especially when the final 4 will go on anyways.

Lets pray 2017 is a good year and we get a bellarke kiss finally.

[destroyer of worlds]

Happy new year, lovelies!

Sarah Method post again

Originally Posted by AnaMack (View Post) And that's precisely why people from both sides are lucky they didn't have her choosing. It was the same with them not torturing Bellamy. We don't know whether she'd hold herself together through that or not. To say she'll "love again" when she's always loved Bellamy is ignoring Bellarke's huge history, so there's that. Bellarke is definitely no rebound, it was already there, it's still there and will always be there. Lexa was definitely important to Clarke's development, good or bad.

I do agree with this and also, all of Clarke's past relationships shape her views of love/relationships and of course will influence her future relationships too.

Originally Posted by Ellfoy (View Post) Hey Becks, I just saw a post on Tumblr about a Bellarke shipper who prefers Clarke over Bellamy. She/he heard first about Clexa before watching but ended up shipping Bellarke instead. Even he/she doesn't really get Bellamy, he/she loves Bellamy and Clarke's relationship. I really want people commenting on Bellamy and Clarke's relationship next season. And cuddles.

That's interesting, we all have our different character preferences in a ship.

Ooh, I want both too.

Originally Posted by CanIcallYouKate (View Post) Sorry Sarah, I couldn't help it I'm trying hard to come up with a list of things that have NOT been mentioned.

I know right? It's hard when everyone has listed practically everything we want this season. We also have an existing wishlist in our OP.

Originally Posted by April7739 (View Post) As for tree sex . . . I remember having several discussions with Alexa about that. Something about breaking the tree in half, I think? I don't know. I mean, there's not one right or wrong way to view a story or a relationship or characters, and I totally love that you have a strong view just as I have a strong view. And even though our views have plenty of similarities, they aren't exactly the same and I LOVE THAT. Because that means we are watching a complex show with dynamic, ever-evolving characters and relationships, where a multitude of interpretations are not only possible, but also inevitable.

I remember that convo.

So, so well said, April. I love that the show and its characters are not cut and dried and their stories are beautifully gray at times. It wouldn't be such a great/interesting show if they weren't.

Originally Posted by Ellfoy (View Post) You know, I've allways wished we would get a flashback of Bellamy and Clarke meeting on the Ark without them remembering about it. (Maybe Bell protecetd/annoyed Clarke while on guard duty ?)

Originally Posted by April7739 (View Post) I've always kind of wanted . . . not a flashback to them meeting, but maybe just something so small, like brushing past each other in the hall or something. Just something small that neither one of them probably even remembers, but something subtly electric.

These are awesome. Man, you guys should write for this show. The Bellarke scenes, at least.

Originally Posted by April7739 (View Post) But I don't think I had that same appreciation for the friendship component of a love story back then. As much as your life experiences and maturation can influence what ships you gravitate towards, I feel like . . . once you're in on a ship, you're in, regardless of how much you may change. But it all depends on your definition of shipping, too. As you guys know, I don't ship casually.

I've always placed emphasis on the friendship factor when it comes to who I date but yes, it's not always the case and sometimes, it just works out that you're not really friends first with the person before things start happening. Life is ever evolving that way, I suppose.

It's half and half for me. I'm usually in for the long run once I ship a couple but there's a few instances where I've realised that my ship is not the best one or there's issues in how it's portrayed and then I may jump ship or not ship anymore at all.

Yup. I do ship some casually.

Originally Posted by stlavin95 (View Post) I definitely love slowburn couples over couples that get together early on and stay together (unless it's well written).

I agree ... if it's well written, it will work out no matter what.

Originally Posted by Ellfoy (View Post) Funny it's the second time I heard about a bisexual fan preferring Bellarke. And it's not the first time that I am being witness to the Clarke bixesuality is only represented when she is with girls bulls**t. Since English is not my native language, I am always under the impression that what I write sounds really awkward. You write well too Sarah !

There seems to be a lot of bisexuals who ship Bellarke but conversely, Clexa as well. And yes, it's such double standards to say that bi-sexual representation is important but if she ends up with Bellamy, it somehow negates it.

I get it but no, it's not awkward at all. And thanks.

Originally Posted by April7739 (View Post) I've come to the conclusion that Season 1 was the most eyesex-heavy. Season 3 . . . there's still eyesex, but the physicality of their other actions increases. (i.e. all the hand stuff)

Hand stuff.

Originally Posted by Way Too Keen (View Post) So apparently I can't adopt children cause I'm gay and I don't wanna make my kids gay, according to my dad, boss.

That really sucks, Becks ... my mother said something similar before, that it's not appropriate for a gay couple to adopt boys for example. Didn't even know how to respond to that.

Originally Posted by April7739 (View Post) Anyway . . . Steph, ever since she told me she thought it was a bird, I keep thinking there needs to be a Bellarke bird. But I guess I'll just have to settle for the Bellarke cats outside the school, who I'm checking on over Christmas break, by the way. I feel like they've mated, so if they have kittens, I'all have to bribe my fellow staff members into naming them Raven, Jasper, Octavia, etc. What a weird post.

Bellarke bird now, April? When will this madness end??

And I finally saw the weirdness of our posts sandwiched/smushed together. Well, that is odd.

Originally Posted by kenni727 (View Post) And I believe Bellamy and Clarke unwittingly flirt with that line all the time anyway. I'm really not sure these two will ever feel the need to define what it is they are to each other. There is too much else going on and at stake. They just are.

Agreed, it's something beyond a regular friendship but not quite there yet either. And yes, there's more important things for them to worry about right now anyway. Even if love matters too.

Originally Posted by AnaMack (View Post) Well, it is an evolution of the usual intimacy we get...

That is true. They just keep on up-ping that ante.

Originally Posted by Way Too Keen (View Post) Bellarke confession I love Bellamy and I don't care if he ends up with Clarke or not. I just want him to be happy. beyond love and within himself.

Me too. Ditto for Clarke. I ship them with happiness ... if that means them being together, even better but it's not an absolute requirement.

Okay, I'm off to bed. Goodnight, lovelies.

[Steph26]

Happy new year! I haven't even looked for my top one. It's too hard when there are so many.

[April7739]

These are awesome. Man, you guys should write for this show. The Bellarke scenes, at least.

Well, I would turn the show into porn, so . . .

Finally got to read through the analysis you brought over, Sarah. Interesting thoughts, and while I don't agree with parts of it (the idea that Clarke "falls into bed" with Lexa because she thinks it's the type of relationship she's supposed to have--no, I don't agree with that), I did find myself pretty much nodding along in agreement as I was reading the parts you bolded. It kind of makes me want more flashback scenes involving their parents, because even though we've only had a few of those so far, it's certainly fair to say that a lot of their views on love (whether it's romantic love, family love, etc.) have developed because of how they were raised and who they were raised by.

[Damocles]

#2 for me again

[Alexa]

Looks like 2 is out!!

Also, Lisa has a new name Hopefully now I wont mix up her and Lee but knowing our luck Lee with pick something with an L as well.

Also, its officially January and this month is hectic AF for me, so I will not be on ff much. so someone may need to take over the survivor if i dont come post within 72 hours k??? Maybe Sarah you could be in charge of that?

Clarke and Bellamy
Season 3 Eye Sex Survivor
(Part 3 of 4)
-GIF CREDIT TO ADIE



Vote for your least favorite "eye sex" moment.
The one with the most votes after 72 hours will be eliminated.
The final 4 moments will move on the LAST round.




Round 3



#01.
3x02

Bellamy?
I’ll get you out of here.



#02 - ELIMINATED IN ROUND 2



#03.
3x05

I know we can fix this.



#04.
311



#05 - ELIMINATED IN ROUND 1


#06.
311

Take a break. I’ll let her beat me up for a while.




#07.
311

Maybe there are no good guys.



#08.
312

You’re out of your mind if you think I'm letting you do this alone.



#09.
313

I was so angry at you for leaving. I dont want to feel that way anymore.



#10.
313

Together.





#11.
315

Are you really wiling to trust that guy with your life?
No. But you’ll be covering us the entire time. And I trust you.




#12.
316

Well keep you safe.




#13.
316

Clarke you’re not acting like someone that just saved the world.
Because we didn't. Not yet.

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I'm gonna go with 4 next because they were so far away. I think Bellamy was more in shock to see her. And they weren't close enough for eye sex imo.