[COOLCAT200]

Wow. Haley in my opinion went a little to overboard with the porn thing. Most guys look at porn it's a fact. Nathan's is just like all of us guys. So Jake's leaving for good? I know Lucas wont. Oh boy what is my Brooke gonna pull next week? I hope its nothing too bad cause I like her so much but After her lie and what may happen next week I just hope it's not too bad.

[Terpsichore]

Christ, this show sucks so much. It's boring, the writing sucks ass, and it's so completely melodramatic. I'm such a glutton for punishment. [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

Thank god for Sophia/Brooke. She's the only worthwhile reason to continue watching.

[~*RaineDayz*~]

Yeah I would have to agree Hailey went too overboard about the porn, it’s a guy thing and she shouldn’t worry about it. But on the other hand all those Peyton pictures she should be worried about. But the fact is… She was invading Nathan’s privacy by looking through his computer.

The whole Lucas and Nathan parts of the episodes I loved. I’m actually happy to see them interacting together without fighting every five minutes.

Peyton and Jake… aww I wish there could be something between them… And Jake better not is leaving for good. I’m sure he will be back next season for the whole court case. That damn Nikki… ERR! She bugs me. If Jake was smart he should have gotten custody the first time she left… then they wouldn’t be having this problem. But oh well… makes for good tv.

I can’t wait to see next weeks season finale!! And the scene for Brooke next week, probably isn’t what we think. I bet Peyton and Brooke try something to sabotage Nikki… or something like that.

[ 05-04-2004: Message edited ~*RaineDayz*~ ]

[[Nimue]]

I just wanted to post my two cents on the whole Haley/porn storyline. Yeah at first the whole storyline may seem stupid and silly and annoying of Haley. I mean, teenage boys look at porn, heck any guy looks at porn. But look at it from Haley's viewpoint. She's virgin and she's just told Nathan she loves him. She has a right to be uncomfortable about the idea of her boyfriend looking at porn and quite alot of it. There are many girls who are not comfortable with their body infront of guys, and to have said guy looking at naked girls with 'perfect' bodies is bound to make that girl upset. I know a few girls who have asked their boyfriends to throw out their porn because they are uncomfortable about it. And those Peyton pictures were just plain creepy.

As for the rest of the show, I can't believe Jake is leaving. I never really cared who Peyton was with, but I still thought her and Jake were cute together. I really wanted the writers to not make Nikki as bad as they made her. I think there was potentional to her character, but now she's just out of hand. Lucas and Nathan stuff was so cute, and I wanna see more it. Everything with Keith/Dan/Karen and the joint custody and Keith leaving left me feeling kind of blah. Next week looks good, but I really hope they don't destroy Brooke's character anymore. I'm really hoping there is more to this betrayal then the trailer showed.

[sullyvann]

I've got lots of opinions on tonight's eppie, but I just had this crazy idea about next week's "betrayal" with Brooke/Niki/Peyton.

Maybe Peyton is so broken up about Jake that she and Brooke plot to "trap" Niki doing something crazy ass!

More later!

[jediwands]

Originally posted by CheerforAU: <STRONG> Wilpen, how do you think the Brooke fans feel? She may be bitchy at times, but she'd never go this low. MS is destroying the character, and I hate it. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] Sophia needs to leave, so I can too. What they're doing to Brooke is an absolute train wreck. And I feel for you. J/P fans got a bull***** ending. I can't believe that's how they ended it. That was total crap. [ 05-04-2004: Message edited CheerforAU ]</STRONG>

I do hear you CheerforAU because it is so true that Brooke fans are royally getting screwed because the writers are absolutely destroying her character. You are right. They are doing an absolute train wreck on Brooke and it is quite unfair to the fans that enjoy Brooke. I totally see your point of view.

I mean, I was never a huge fan of Brooke, I think mostly because Peyton has been my favorite from day one. So I basically see lots of things through Peyton.. But I will say that I enjoyed Brooke A LOT better before the triangle started. It is like once the triangle got underway, the writers have slowly destroyed Brooke and that does SUCK for Brooke fans. It really does. So, I can see your point of way. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

And it is true.. According to what looks like is going down in next week's episode, Brooke looks WAY out of character. I mean they are literally turning bitchy Brooke into evil bitchy Brooke and there is a huge difference I think. Plus, the one thing that just seems so off is I was always convinced that Peyton and Brooke love each other like sisters. I just find it totally hard to believe that Brooke would completely turn love to hate for Peyton..

[SweetSymphony]

I didnt see this part of the promo but is it possible that Peyton and Brooke has teamed up to bring Nikki down? Brooke could be just acting like shes on Nikki's side, couldnt she?

[~DropsofJupiter~]

Wilpen, how do you think the Brooke fans feel? She may be bitchy at times, but she'd never go this low.

Um, Brooke is not a real person. She'll go as low as they WRITE her because she is a piece of fiction.

[Otep]

Originally posted by ¤NDN Angel¤: <STRONG>I didnt see this part of the promo but is it possible that Peyton and Brooke has teamed up to bring Nikki down? Brooke could be just acting like shes on Nikki's side, couldnt she?</STRONG>

we already know that Brooke doesn't like Nikki afterall this crap and tonight when she stole Jenny? I don't think Brooke could ever like her.

Which is why I am thinking Brooke is just playing her.

[xxlisaxx]

Originally posted by ~DropsofJupiter~: <STRONG> Um, Brooke is not a real person. She'll go as low as they WRITE her because she is a piece of fiction.</STRONG>

You edited out the part after that, where she said the writer's were destroying the character. I think she's well aware Brooke's a piece of fiction.

I think Haley overreacted to the porn. I understand she has her insecurities, but Nathan's a guy whose used to having sex. I'd much rather my bf look at porn than find sex somewhere else. If anything would tick me off, it would be the pictures of Peyton.

It sucks that Jake's leaving, because he was the only young male on the show that I really liked anymore. The Peyton/Jake moment was cute, but I don't think that Jake running away to Savannah is realistic. They'd track him down in a heartbeat if Nikki went to a lawyer.

The Dan/Nathan/Lucas scene at the end was my favorite. Maybe it was just me, but I saw a lot of pride in Dan's eyes and that makes me happy. They're really what this show's all about.

Mostly, I think the writing is for crap. The show's not worth watching anymore, especially when it lacks scenes with Sophia.

Lisa

[LovinLafferty_23]

OMG im like hyperventialating here.. that was.. a SHOCKiNG episode.. lets just say i was crying when .. jake left, when haley (kinda) broke up with nathan the first time, and the last scene with lucas keith and karen

nikki. i think she seriously is a physco stalker bitch

peyton. oh my poor thing .. everythings like falling apart for her.. i didnt see the promo but from what you guys are saying it doesnt sound too good and she`ll be crushed when she finds out lucas is leaving

lucas. wait.. he cant leave.. hes the main character.. but theres an interview of him on the ktla news at 10 so im waiting for that to come on.. and see if hes really leaving because if he is ratings are going down for sure

nathan.. my poor baby [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] but what is he doing with peyton pictures on his computer!?

haley.. over reacted on the porn a little, but you have to look at it from her point of view.. but she had a right to be mad about the peyton pictures.

did i miss anything ?
i think this show is killing me [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

[MiSs CrYs]

*HEAD UP* I'm just a tad bit annoyed because I posted a long response about today's episode and my computer froze before I could send it*

Anywhoo, where was I again? Jake..OH JAKE! Why did you have to leave the show? What were the writers thinking? I felt that Jake and Peyton's pairing would be the only one good thing to happen at One Tree Hill! They sure weren't kidding with the "leaving song" eh? Man oh man....I was so upset that Jake left and to me it was so SUDDEN and I was almost in disbelief that he left...if it weren't for the major spoilers going on at the OTH spoiler board of Jake's departure I would have cried out of shock today...okay I did get teary eyed bec. I could just feel the UNFINISHED BUSINESS/CHEMISTRY UNEXPLORED between Jake and Peyton. I mean you could tell that something was there....the kiss..the look..the tears..but I hope that he will come back next season and surprise us all. You know how people leave and decide to come back down the road...a girl can hope....

GRR..why did they take Jakie away. I'm still upset about this...just when Peyton was getting over Lucas...trying to repair her friendship with Brooke...and start over with Jake the lover boy *lol*...and now all this B.S.! I mean you have to figure how did Nikki know they were at the mall unless Brooke told her...BUT..I am going to give Brooke the benefit of the doubt and say that the preview is deceving and that Peyton and Brooke are going to pull something on Nikki the b*tch! She deserves all the misery...I'm just a tad bit bitter right now.

Its like the writers are runing all the things on OTH that I love. Also, as much as I love Haley...she really dissapointed me. Her character has strong morals and values and wants to wait to have sex..or so that is what she keeps saying to Nathan and to the viewers. I'm not saying DON'T SLEEP WITH NATHAN shoot its going to happen I mean if there is one couple they are trying NOT to sabotage its them, so all you Naley fans you have the writers on your side (this is the Jayton anger coming out-haha) But back on topic. Again just to reinterate I love Haley and I have nothing against her and Nathan. However, the girl said today "I gave you my heart and that is all I can give you"-QUOTE *with a couple words missing* And then the next day she sleeps with the guy? I mean..am I missing something here? The hypocritical side anywhere?? Its like, *BLINK BLINK*

What is going on? And the surprise betrayal of Karen/Keith...realy makes me roll my eyes. I doubt that I"ll be a die hard fan next season, UNLESS the writers can pull a fast one on us and make a GREAT FINALE! Heh heh...I just don't like where this show is going and don't know how it'll be the same with so many back stabbings...betrayals..unfinished business...no Jake... [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

[dorqui]

so craig's not leaving but bryan is. craig cant leave if his character is taking the main character with him. im sure there's a storyline there.

jake is leaving? aww, im gonna miss him. guess there's no more future for jake and peyton? no way!

[pamcakes]

JAKE!!! NO!!!!
COME BACK!!!!

[HisGirlFriday]

My thoughts:

Nathan/Lucas - First off, thank god that CMM got his hair cut. Really, thank you. I felt that the whole 'all of a sudden they're brothers now' was kinda rushed. I know they're still not the best of friends, but I think it's too soon for all of this. I felt awkward watching these scenes, and I don't know if thats what Schwahny is going for, but thats what I got out of it. In the weightlifting scene, when Nathan was like, "We're not...well, she's not...so I'm not pressuring her." I was like "Awwww."

Nathan/Haley - I love the forehead kiss. Very cute. Just a little aside, Nathan has the same laptop as my sister [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Joie rocks my socks off. As much as I really did not feel the porn storyline, I love Joie. She rocked every one of her scenes tonight. The PeytonPorn was so much worse. Haley is just this little naive person, and when she was saying her "I'm a real person" speech my heart went out to her. When she talks like that I feel so jaded, and that's a wierd feeling to get from a tv show.

Jake & Jenny - I heart Bryan Greenberg. I know I say it every week, but I mean it. I'm so sad that he's leaving (being spoiler free I had no idea). I hate Nikki for this. (I realize that they are not real people, yes, but I completely blame her for taking my Jake away.) The scene where they got on the boat just broke my heart. And the J/P kiss was perfectly awkward, and I loved it. Their little forehead kiss was adorable. I want him to come back!

Peyton/Brooke - I love their friendship and how now it's kinda them vs. Lucas. Yes, I like that a lot. I liked their little scene at the mall. And can I just say that if Peyton didn't see her go into that store, she wouldn't be able to see the broad side of a barn. Follow her! What's wrong with you.

Keith - Quite frankly, I'm bored with him. Send him away, I don't care. Let's just talk for a minute about Lucas wanting to go with Keith...this isn't going to happen right? Because they wouldn't send the main character of the show away, right? I'm just a little confused by this little plot twist. I was absolutely floored when he said that.

Dan - Assface. I love to hate Dan. I can scream my real life frustrations away at him. But honestly, I cannot believe that he would just take over the team...well I can, because he's Dan, but you know. He benched Tim? [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] And he made Lucas puke? I really hate this man.

Karen - I can understand why she never told Lucas about Dan. It was partly protecting her son and partly protecting herself. I can also understand why Lucas would be hurt. Lucas brought up valid points when he was like, "You loved him once." Because I've often wondered that myself, but it seems as though as soon as Karen got pregnant he turned into an ass and never looked back. I don't really know how I feel on this issue yet.

Random - Joie looked gorgeous in her scene with Hilarie...I want that blue shirt she had on. De, put those boobs away, woman. They just keep showcasing them.

The Previews - Whoa. Um, whoa. Lucas leaving? Brooke/Nikki again? Deb and Keith? Secret? Rain. Nathan. Haley. Making out. Wet. Bed. [img]smilies/drool.gif[/img] Info overload.

Quotes -

I know this team as well as you. Every game, every player...
You ought to. You daddied half of them.

Nice shot Haley.

I was at Nathan's...and I came across all this creepy porn.
How creepy? Like She-male midgets?

And this is from the preview, but I love this line....

"How did we become so broken?"
"The people that we love forgot to love us back."

And I just wanted to say that when Haley said, "He's looking at plastic bimbos." My friend goes, "They're not plastic! It's not like he's playing with Barbie dolls!" It had me cracking up