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Old 05-04-2004, 07:07 PM
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#223 "The Leaving Song" Episode Discussion Thread

Lucas is shocked to learn that Dan once asked Karen for joint custody of Lucas when he was a baby. Meanwhile, Peyton panics after Nicki kidnaps Jake’s baby while she is babysitting.
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Old 05-04-2004, 07:33 PM
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Haley tonight... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] .

Any girl who is that shocked to find porn on a teen boy's comp is an idiot. I like Haley, really, I do, but that was just dumb. It's what they do, it's a side affect of the testosterone.

Pamela Anderson Wannabes is "creepy" style porn? Geez, I thought she said she wasn't a prude? What would normal porn be in Haley's world?

Edited because: The Peyton pics are a totally different story. Those she had every right to be angry about.

Oh and Jake hasn't even gone to court for custody?? Dude, Nicki could walk off with the baby all she wanted and it wouldn't be kidnapping.

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Old 05-04-2004, 08:02 PM
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As much as I love this show, it's so damn predicatable at times. We all no Lucas isn't leaving for good. We;d have no show. If he does leave and stays wherever Keith is going (I know they said it but I forgot. Charlotte?) I'll scream.
But then it's good because of the unpredicatability. Like the previews form next week.
Idk...this eppy was OK. :/
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Ohhh Haley..I just wanted to give you a hug tonight. Let Nathan go make nice with himself. I think that she has a bit of a right to feel angry/pressured. He says he's not pressuring her, but he has no problem getting it from naked pictures of his ex on his computer? Jerk. I'd be angry, too.

Jake! I love you! Nikki's a bar****. Snif. I finally get into the Jake/Peyton shipping on the 23rd hour. Silly me. She luuurves him.

Lucas/Dan/drama...don't care. You're better off without him, Lucas. Karen knew what kind of person he was and she was trying to protect you. Dan as a basketball coach? Scary. Whose brilliant idea was it to let that man have a whistle? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Keith! Love!

Next week: We get nooookie! We do! And Deb/Keith! Ohh, my secret 'ship since LIAGH. He's got a bit of a beer gut, but he's still kinda sexy. Go for it, Deb! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:15 PM
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Well, not much to say here, except I was crying throughout it, lol. especially when the peyton pics popped up- I was hella pissed, then crying. And Jake- man, I was balling out my eyes out then. I'm gonna miss him so much.
As for Lucas leaving: he could go for the 'summer'- but seriously, I don't think Keith's leaving now, lol!!! BORM CHICK BOWM BOWM [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] I think the boys are staying in town!!!
Haley & Nathan- didn't like how the story went (obviously, lol) but, they did a great job...... and next week :jawdrop:
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:20 PM
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Very good episode! Though Haley is really starting to annoy me. I mean come on, what guy doesn't view porn from time to time. What a silly thing to be insecure about. Next weeks eppy looks to be going out with a bang, literally. I must say,I saw the whole keith and deb storyline like ten episodes back. So that wasn't a surprise. But all these people supposedly exiting TreeHill is like, WHOA. Not only that, WTF is up with Brooke and Nikki? Not likin where that is goin at all. BTW, the scenes between Lucas and Nathan were simply awesome. Finally OTH is getting where it needs to be to be a an awesome nightime drama.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:27 PM
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<STRONG>Pamela Anderson Wannabes is "creepy" style porn? Geez, I thought she said she wasn't a prude? What would normal porn be in Haley's world?
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Nathan had porn on his computer. Big whoop. I'm sure most teenage guys do. Heh. I was surprised about the Peyton pics... But then again I ship N/P, so it didn't bother me.

The brotherly bonding was cute. It's so nice to see Nathan and Lucas getting along so well. Also cute was Brooke and Peyton becoming friends again. Until Psycho!Nicki had to come along and take Jenny.

*sigh* I miss Jake already. But I loved the Jake/Peyton goodbye. They would've made such a cute couple if the writers put them together instead of the L/P mess.

As for the previews...

Puhleeze, are we really going to expect Lucas to leave? And the Deb/Keith thing was a shocker, so I hate that they used it in the promo instead of letting us be shocked by it next week. And are the writers so hell bent on making Brooke the most hated one in Tree Hill?
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WTF! WTF! W!T!F! *screams* Ok I'm sure I'm probably overeacting, but the end of tonights epi + next weeks previews have me feeling... just so many emotions inside that I'm not sure if I can express accuratly. SO on that note if you hate reading psycho babble about how the whole Keith/Deb thing is horrid, and how I now hate Brooke because of the obvious betrayal that's about to go down please scroll down quickly now.

Keith/Deb: Why are they even gonna waste our time with this stupid storyline. I mean to me it just seems like such an OBVIOUS waste off time. "The people we love don't love us back." UGH!!! This storyline is just gross and a waste of these talented actors. They're giving them leftover storylines. Be original. I realize I just like repeated the same sentence like 3 times worded differently. I just annoys me so.

Brooke: Ok, I finally just started to truly like Brooke, especially after they gave her character some emotional depth with the whole Peyton/Lucas/Brooke triangle. I loved her even more after last weeks bedroom scene with Peyton. But now the PTB come along with this "impossible not to hate her" storyline of bitchiness between two friends over a guy. Why can't they just stick to the reconciliation route. Why do they constantly have to go for the stereotypical catfight thing? I just don't get it.

Lucas: He's not going anywhere for long. I mean he's the main character. I f he does leave it will be for just the summer and then *poof* he'll back for the new school year. They'll spend an entire three or four epis on discussing this amazing difference in Lucas.

Nathan/Haley: AWWW!!! Their first time. Only thing I'm looking frward to though I'm sure the cheesey factor will be way high.

I just realized I wrote an entire post on next weeks epi. Guess I'll have to post later about this weeks episode.
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:34 PM
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This show has got to be kidding me. These writers have got to be kidding me.

You get me all hyped up shipping Peyton/Jake and having those two as my all-time favorite shippers only to SHIP JAKE OFF? WTF?! Seriously, the one good guy that I love and adore and so forth, the one couple I completelty ship and love and you break it up!! I am so unbelievably upset. Not only is the Friends finale this week (which I am still shedding tears over, yes that's what happens when you watch a show for 10 years), but Jake is gone?!

I'm so angry I can't even think straight.

Haley, Haley, Haley. I did not see any reason for her to be mad at Nathan (besides the Peyton pictures which freaked me out but whatev). So he looks at porn, what guy doesn't? Give the guy a break. Please. [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Lucas is leaving huh? Couldn't think up any more storylines? [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Keith and Deb - saw it coming a mile away.

Nikki should leave. The storyline shouldn't have been brought in the first place. Only thing good that came out of it was Peyton and Jake's kiss, even if it was a half-second.

Didn't like the episode so I don't feel like discussing it because most likely all comments will be negative right now. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]_
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Old 05-04-2004, 08:40 PM
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Ok, all I can say right now is... is Jakeeeeee really gone? Is Bryan Greenberg really NOT coming back?! Because seriously. That was one. good. thing. this show had going for it.

UGHHHH.
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Ahhh this show kills me...seriously lol. I honestly have no idea how I'm gonna make it through 3 months without the show during the summer. Finales suck! Lol anyway...I thought tonight's eppy was good. I'm a little mad that Jake left, I definitely wished something happened with him and Peyton.

Speaking of Peyton, I loved how "Hoes Over Broes" came back tonite...but what is that supposed to mean next week with Brooke and Nikki? Was Brooke just playing Peyton cuz if she was...that's messed up! I love their friendship...

Next, onto Naley, my oh so lovable favorite couple. God, I love Nathan lol. Haley kinda annoyed me tonite...all guys look at porn lol. Sure, its disgusting but I'm sure its something that any girl can get over. However, I do love the fact that next week looks like they may actually do it! Anyone else love that?? I don't like how they left Naley kinda hanging tonite. They never really concluded their storyline...just showed Haley with Nathan's hand lol.

Finally, my favorite storyline of the nite: Nathan and Lucas. God, I love when these two are in scenes together...double hotness! But anyway, I love how they are acting like brothers lately because I think they have the potential to act like real brothers. They are so funny together and I loved when Nathan called Lucas "Haley" when he missed the shot lol. Dan needs to stop though, seriously.

Anyway, I thought tonite's show was pretty good...next week looks even better. I hate season finales, have I mentioned that yet lol? Where's Lucas gonna go...he's the freakin main character so he can't go too far! As long as Naley stays together and Lucas and Nathan act like bros...I'll be a happy girl!

By the way, what's up with Deb and Keith...I wonder??? Not liking it too much though lol.

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Old 05-04-2004, 08:42 PM
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Interesting eppy.

Haley - at first I thought the porn storyline was really stupid. It's not surprising that a teenage boy would look at porn on HIS computer. And Pamela Anderson wannabes? How is that creepy?? Now what's creepy is a thing with Peyton. For a half second I thought Haley was using Lucas's computer when she saw the Peyton pictures, cos I thought Nathan was over her. It's creepy that he's still logging on to her site when he's dating Haley..

Lucas - I totally understand why he is mad. He was mad at Dan for years because he thought that Dan didn't want anything to do with him. Now he knows that isn't true. I like that by the end of the eppy everything was put into persepective and he understood why his mom kept the secret. I think Nathan is right, Lucas didn't miss out on anything. (However, I get the sense from his talk with Nate that he feels a little guilty Nathan had to deal with Dan alone for all those years.)

Keith - wow. I feel bad for the guy. The Lucas issue was one of the main reasons that he and Dan fought for all those years and now he knows it was based on a lie. I do think Karen didn't mean to hurt him but she did kinda trapped him into feeling sorry for her so she wouldn't lose him. Anyway, I think Keith deserves the nookie with Deb. He's been down in the dumps lately so I won't hold it against him [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Dan - As a coach Dan is ridiculous. I'm mad that he made Lucas throw up. BTW, his comment about Deb and Karen being partners made me crack up [img]smilies/lol.gif[/img]

Nathan/Lucas - I like that they are now friends.

Jake/Jenny/Peyton/Nikki - Whoa. I can't believe Jake doesn't have legal rights to Jenny! That's a bit irresponsible. Even though a few weeks ago I was a supporter of Nikki having visitation rights, I actually was happy Jake left town with Jenny. Like Brooke said that Nikki bitch is crazy. [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

BTW, how come no Jake/Lucas scenes this week? I can see if he was talking to Lucas because of Lucas but there wasn't a scene to show if Jake was freezing Lucas out. At practice they seemed chummy. Then how come he didn't confide in Lucas that he was leaving town?

Previews next week look good. I'm looking forward to the Keith/Dan confrontation. And I wanna know if Lucas is gonna live with Keith during the summer (we all know he won't leave Tree Hill for good). But the Nikki/Brooke alliance is bad news [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

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I have nothing good to say about this episode at all. It was a half-assed attempt at drama, and OTH deserved every bad word it got in Matt Roush's review.

Sophia and Bryan are the only two good things about this show, to me, and one is gone. The other one is playing the most screwed over character on the damn show. I have great taste, don't I?

Yeah, Nathan and Haley...um die or have sex or something. I don't even care anymore. They are so lame.

Lucas is such a weakling. I really do hate him.

The adults = blech.

The show = suckfest.

MS = worst writer ever.
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What a freaking joke. This is how they end the Jake and Peyton stuff. Damn the writers and everyone else associated with this storyline.

And I thought I could not hate Brooke anymore.. I have always strongly disliked Brooke, but I have reached a point of no return with her. I absolutely LOATHE Brooke. She is such a cold bitch. Nothing more, nothing less. A BITCH. I can't believe that she is doing this to Peyton. I hope whenever Peyton founds out what Brooke is doing to her, Peyton literally kicks her ass. I am not kidding. Peyton needs to literally smack her once or twice and dump Brooke's ass once and for all.

EDITED to say that this was posted first and foremost with anger about how the writers are absolutely destroying Brooke as well as the pathetic ending of Jake and Peyton..

I guess what I am saying is I don't hate Brooke as much as it seems in this post.. I more or less hate how the writers are destroying Brooke, if that makes sense.
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<STRONG>What a freaking joke. This is how they end the Jake and Peyton stuff. Damn the writers and everyone else associated with this storyline.

And I thought I could not hate Brooke anymore.. I have always strongly disliked Brooke, but I have reached a point of no return with her. I absolutely LOATHE Brooke. She is such a cold bitch. Nothing more, nothing less. A BITCH. I hate her so intensely it's not even funny. I can't believe that she is doing this to Peyton. I hope whenever Peyton founds out what Brooke is doing to her, Peyton literally kicks her ass. I am not kidding. Peyton needs to literally smack her once or twice and dump Brooke's ass once and for all. Again, Brooke is nothing but a complete bitch and I JUST HATE HER. She should be the one leaving and not Jake. Ughhhhh.

My hatred for Brooke has really made me despise this show right now. And to couple that with how the people in charge decided to string along Jake and Peyton fans to a bull**** ending like we got today has made me one unhappy fan..</STRONG>
Wilpen, how do you think the Brooke fans feel? She may be bitchy at times, but she'd never go this low. MS is destroying the character, and I hate it. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]

Sophia needs to leave, so I can too. What they're doing to Brooke is an absolute train wreck.

And I feel for you. J/P fans got a bull***** ending. I can't believe that's how they ended it. That was total crap.

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