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Not to be argumentative but other nonevil POCs include Rapunzel, Mulan, Cinderella's godmother, Henry Sr, and Marian. The show does lack diversity but not every POC has been a villain. And they have done a nice job with nontraditional casting for Rapunzel, Lancelot, and Marian.
ETA I always thought the S2 mess was because ABC execs (rightfully) told them to shorten Emma and Snow's (not so) Excellent EF adventure and get them back with the main cast. Then Colin broke his leg necessitating another set of rewrites. |
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Didn't we hear once that A&E originally intended for Emma and Snow to be in FTL for almost all of S2? |
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Their storyline in the EF drug on as it was. I cannot inagine even more of that. But yes I think Ruby was made a regular to play off David the entire season 2 but that was scrapped when Emma and Snow came back earlier so Meghan started looking for other projects.
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A&e maybe plan the story at beginning but then they change and drop things all the time.
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S3: There must also have been dropped things and rewrites because we got episode stills for The Tower were Regina and Archie give Henry the Storybook but the scene got deleted because they rewrote that the book would give Henry back his memories: 3x14 - The Tower - Welcome to Storybrooke | Gallery And I remember they said at the start of 3b that Snow's and Aurora's babies would have a special connection but that didn't happen. And this year we know Colette was to come back in some form in 4b but it won't happen now. |
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Thanks Ranma90!
Yeah lets just agree that S2 was a huge cluster mess that even A&E probably wish they could forget. It must have been really stressful for them to change so much. |
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I see I'm just in time with the drinks... Cocktails anyone?
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To be fair, season 2 had some great episodes. 2.01-2.06 were brillaint. As were 2.08-2.10. And I liked 2.07, 2.11, 2.13-2.15 and 2.21-2.22. It was the rest that were subpar for the series. And the second half lacked cohesion.
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Usually they do not plan a whole season which is why the have arcs they plan each arc individually when they planned frozen the QOD was not happening. They do a story board with characters and an idea of where they are going but nothing becomes a complete picture till they write the episodes. When they brought marian I think it was just for drama with outlaw queen I don't think they knew they were going in the zelena direction yet. A lot of things change from when they plan to when they write an episode and frozen took a lot of screen time and 3b had a lot of characters in it.
As for Sean's wife spilling about zelena I find that strange the show would not take to kindly for him to give that away to early and Sean is usually careful not to give to much away. Also Sean wouldn't know that far ahead that marian was zelena he would only know about a week before they shot heart of gold |
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I do think however that this arc is showing signs of A&E getting back to basics and more focus on the main characters as opposed to the visiting guest stars. Hope that continues into S5. I'm hoping we no longer have these theme arcs and A&E just focus on telling a good overarching story that puts more focus on the main characters, their development and their relationships. |
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Exactly. They get ideas and inspiration that might change small plot points. I think people forget that they don't take a three month hiatus like we do. By the time the Lily episode aired they had already written the start of 4B.
Look, they definitely change their minds ... that' just what happens in the writing process. They might want to explore one plot but then something grows out of the story that they didn't expect. Some things work well and others don't. I believe that there was probably supposed to be more with Tamara but then they got excited about this big adventure in Neverland so they incorporated the stories. I just think they have a lot more planned out than you would think. __________________
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I'm sure too they probably have the storyline prepared for the final season when they are given that notice. |
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I forgot about Lacey. I did like that episode too.
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