shut_uo_ste

Exactly. In fact the Phillip and Aurora snippet is probably more of a spoiler than a promo including the mob at Regina's house, people remembering etc. Unless you'd read it online, a casual audience member wouldn't know they were coming, but, you'd already know about the curse breaking and the whole town gunning for Regina.

Betsybelle

Gold probably zapped up Belle’s clothing because obviously stores would not be open, so hah….he can use it, lol. I wonder what the Queen tries to do that she fails at with the magic.

There’s that and also maybe it can only be used for anything regarding true love. So Gold could use his magic to try and find Bae or to zap up clothing for Belle, but Regina couldn’t use it to try and hurt Gold. I actually prefer it if these two couldn’t use magic as a weapon against the other – they did just fine without it. Gold doesn’t need magic to try and take her down – he’s fueled now by his eternal fury against her and obviously he’s smart, clever and patient. Regina needs it more, but she’s got her ways.

The notion that true love is magic and that magic can’t be tainted in any way is so appealingly romantic.

Jiorjiina

Exactly.

That would be an interesting twist.

They didn't seem to to use magic against each other much in FLT either, since I think if one of them could have taken the other out they probably would have without a doubt.

Which also makes me wonder exactly what the deal is between them? Maybe they can't use magic on each other for some reason? And that's why they get at each other though the ones they love.

Serenachan

I bet Snow's "friend" is Emma.

Not Rumple, though. He needed her for the curse.

Betsybelle

I don’t recall Rumple going after Regina’s loved ones, though – not that she had any loved ones. Daniel had died long ago and she killed her father

Regina, I think, needs magic more than Gold. It’s not that she’s not intelligent, but she’s extremely emotional and very obvious in her ways; she’s just not subtle and cool like Gold. Plus, she’s always going to have these temporary allies in certain villains, but as the saying goes, there is no honor among thieves. The minute that “ally” gets what he needs, he’ll split – double crossing is a way of life among the evil, lol. Gold has someone to support him, to love him, to team with him (if necessary) – someone he can trust with his life. His love for Belle and hers for him is an enormous strength and an advantage for Gold. Of course, when you love someone, you also become vulnerable. Someone like Regina would consider that love a weak spot and take advantage of it. She’s done it once before with Belle – at some point, I’m sure she’ll do it again. It may not be physically – perhaps she’ll just torment Gold with the idea that something horrible could happen to Belle (even if nothing happens, she could plant these thoughts in his head, hoping he would be immobile to act because he’d fear for Belle).

I really think that once Bae comes to town (likely not until the end of the season), Regina will take advantage of his anger (he still loves his father, but that’s likely buried inside him), hurt and pain to recruit him to take Gold down. This would be a crushing blow to Gold, who could never hurt his son; I’m not sure he could survive this without Belle by his side. Yet another disadvantage to loving….this is why villains always seem to get the upper hand. As they generally don’t care about anyone or anything, there is nothing holding them back. Of course, it is a far, far better thing to love than to not.

Neverlight

Gold knows Regina's weaknesses. Henry and her mother. He will use them against Regina. I am sure.

Jiorjiina

Yes, she killed her father because Rumple created the curse so that it could only be set off by killing the person you love most. Then he handed it over to Regina.

He didn't have any left to love. So he manipulated Regina into doing unleashing it for him.

Serenachan

I don't see how Regina was manipulated into casting the curse.

Betsybelle

Oh, I see what you're saying. Of course, it didn't mean Regina had to kill her father. She had the choice of not giving in to her anger and putting the idea of a curse aside and he begged her not to. Of course, her father also had a hand in killing Snow's father, so he wasn't exactly pure.

I kind of agree. To me, this is just a much, much bigger version of his "let the buyer beware" deals he makes with people. He told Regina to kill the thing you love most -but the implication to me is that he's basically saying "ok, I created this curse, but the price you'll have to pay is killing the thing/one you love the most. Can you do it?"
If Regina had not done it, I'm sure Rumple would eventually have found a way to a land without magic, the same general area where Bae is.


Her mother isn't around in SB and may never be. I don't think Gold would do anything to hurt Henry. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

Whatever issues he had with Regina in the past and in SB now are moot as he's undoubtedly apoplectic about what she did to Belle. His entire motivation against her now will be revenge for that. Since obviously he's not going to kill her, he'll have to find some way to destroy her slowly, but surely.

yellowrose_bb_12

Hmmm...interesting

OUATKatya

It's intersting that the article mentions that we will get to see Storybrooke in the pre-Emma period. I was hoping they would do this. I'm curious to see if Baelfire showed up during that time - and Mr. Gold didn't remember having had a son. How bittersweet that would be for Bae to see his father finally free of magic, but still unwilling/unable to be with him. Also, this will hopefully mean we'll get more info on how Henry was adopted.

jessie09

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koodles

Yeah, me either. A big theme in this show is that everyone has a choice and Rumpelstiltskin almost personifies that theme at times. He has done a lot of horrible things on this own, but it's funny to me some of the characters blame him for their own decisions.

It's not like he ruined Cinderella's life and then gave her the only way out. Her life was miserable and he showed up and gave her an option to leave (warned her of the consequences) and she chose to make a deal with him and then backed out when he came to collect his price.

Same with Regina. He may have used her to enact the curse, but he didn't force her to do it. She made than decision on her own and knew the consequences.

shut_uo_ste

Interesting! I had wondered if they were going to Charming is Arthur route, perhaps they are? Although, I don't think the timeline would fit and I could never see Snow having another romance after she met Charming.

It's a grey area with Rumple's deals really. Regina has to take personal responsibility for enacting the curse, but, at the same time I don't think it was a coincidence that she was one to do it. I think Rumple picked Regina and probably made sure she was pushed towards the curse.

Betsybelle

And there's this:

Ah, Gold's revenge on Regina will be so sweet. Belle is going to be pissed as well, based on simple common sense and what Emilie said at CC, so it will be fun to see what part she plays in this. Yep, Regina held onto Belle for some reason - and too long, though as Adam/Eddy have said in the past, had she tried to bargain with Gold, he likely would just have killed her.