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Reign Spoilers and Speculation #16: First come Kennash then comes brothels, then comes love
REIGN SPOILERS & SPECULATION THREAD  Airing Thursdays at 8 PM EST on the CW Trailer: Hidden between the lines of the history books is the story of Mary Stuart, the young woman the world would come to know as Mary, Queen of Scots. Queen of Scotland since she was six days old, the teenage Mary is already a headstrong monarch – beautiful, passionate, and poised at the very beginning of her tumultuous rise to power. Arriving in France with four close friends as her ladies-in-waiting, Mary has been sent to secure Scotland’s strategic alliance by formalizing her arranged engagement to the French king’s dashing son, Prince Francis. But the match isn’t signed and sealed, it depends more on politics, religion and secret agendas than affairs of the heart. Prince Francis is intrigued by the fiery Scot, but like most young men, he resists the idea of settling down into marriage, especially when he has a history with a lady of the court and his own point of view on the wisdom of an alliance with Scotland. Still, an attraction between Mary and Francis is ignited. Further complicating things is Bash, Francis’ roguish half-brother, who has a history of his own – despite his illegitimate birth, Bash is his father’s favorite. And now that Bash has caught Mary’s eye, a royal triangle may be forming. CAST: Adelaide Kane as Mary Toby Regbo as Prince Francis Torrance Coombs as Sebastian aka "Bash" Caitlin Stasey as Kenna Anna Popplewell as Lola Celina Sinden as Greer Jenessa Grant as Aylee Megan Follows as Catherine de' Medici Alan van Sprang as King Henry II Rossif Sutherland as Nostradamus CREW: Brad Silberling - Exec Producer/Writer/Director Episode Stills Find all stills here 1x17: Leige Lord MARY MAKES A FATEFUL DECISION — When Mary (Adelaide Kane) learns of a secret clause in her marriage contract that her mother, Marie de Guise (guest star Amy Brenneman) and Queen Catherine (Megan Follows) orchestrated, Mary and Francis (Toby Regbo) embark on a dangerous plan to turn Scotland against her mother – and Mary gets her first taste of power as the Queen of Scots. Alan Van Sprang, Torrance Coombs, Celina Sinden, Anna Popplewell and Caitlin Stasey also star. The episode was directed by Allan Kroeker and written by Doris Egan (#117). CW Extended Promo Other Info: *The @reignwriters account says this will be a bloody episode! (Source: X) 117 wrap-up 1x18: No Exit MARY’S BROTHER ARRIVES AT THE CASTLE TO PLEA FOR MARY’S RETURN TO SCOTLAND — When Mary’s brother James (guest star Joe Doyle) arrives in France and convinces Mary to return to Scotland, Francis (Toby Regbo) is suspicious and uncovers a plot that would destroy Mary (Adelaide Kane), which causes a rift between them. King Henry’s (Alan Van Sprang) downward spiral continues, leaving Penelope (guest star Kathryn Prescott) in charge, causing Catherine (Megan Follows) and Kenna (Caitlin Stasey) to take drastic measures. Meanwhile, Lola (Anna Popplewell) becomes wary of Lord Julien’s (guest star Giacomo Gianniotti) motives behind his marriage proposal. Torrance Coombs and Celina Sinden also star. The episode was directed by Mike Rohl and written by Hannah Schneider (#118). Stills for 118 Other Info: *Olivia will be in this episode as she is filming in Toronto. (Source: X) *Photo: Table Reading of Episode 18: Here. *Photo: Mary & Francis: Here. 119: Toy Soldiers “Toy Soldiers” — (9:00-10:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV) FOR LOVE OR COUNTRY — When Mary’s uncle, the Duke of Guise (guest star Gil Darnell), arrives in France with devastating news about her mother, Mary (Adelaide Kane) and Francis (Toby Regbo) realize they are torn between putting their own countries first or saving their marriage. With the English throne in jeopardy, King Henry (Alan Van Sprang) hatches an elaborate plan that will end in disaster. Meanwhile, Bash (Torrance Coombs) and Kenna (Caitlin Stasey) solidify their marriage and begin to trust one another. Megan Follows, Anna Popplewell and Celina Sinden also star. The episode was directed by Chris Grismer and written by Mike Herro and David Strauss (#119). Other Info: * Table Read Photo GENERAL SPOILERS: Interview with Alan Van Sprang __________________
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LOVE the title, Shu! But you probably knew that already, did you not? TFTNT! Bringing over from the prior thread.
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Since I think she's running away from him next week and landing in one as a way to try to take back control of her life. I also believe he & Henry find her there post exorcism and that begins the KB bonding and ultimate falling for one another. He'd have to be the most selfish person who ever was born to not feel guilt that his wife would rather be a prostitute than married to him..given he apparently makes explicit he doesn't even like her. Um, you're wrong. Greer currently still has a lot of money, she just has no title. Her family wealth is also coming up against the real fact that its source is drying up. Mines. __________________
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That title is awesomeballs
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The title!
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Thanks for the new thread, Shu!
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Maybe you missed when her friends aka the other LIW made fun of her for kind of being a nobody. All the comments about how desperate she is to marry someone of wealth b/c her family is counting on her.. I dont know, pretty much every single conversation thats been had about it on the show... So therefore, my point... Catherine wouldnt have any need for Greer beyond petty dirty work... |
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I had some confusion about this earlier on in the series, but I think that all 4 of the LIW come from wealthy families, though Aylee's was the wealthiest. However, Greer was the only one to not have a title, which is why her family is so pressed that she marry up.
I'm so glad that you were right on the money with your Kenna/Bash speculation Laura! I was excited for this storyline when it was just speculation and I'm even more excited now that's a reality. I haven't seen the episode yet so it's hard for me to comment on anything that happened within it. But without having seen it, I will make this speculation in regards to the "triangle" - no it's not 100% dead. I just don't think it's going to live on the way some people might think or hope for. Based on years of soap viewing, I think it's safe to assume that just as Bash and Kenna start to grow close and develop feelings (which I'm 99.9% sure is gonna happen), Kenna's going to be insecure about Bash's feelings for Mary. Again, having not seen the episode just yet, I'm going to throw it out there that Bash confessing his still there feelings to Mary (which, dude, for realz please stop and get your life) is more for the Kenna/Bash relationship than it is for the Mary/Francis relationship. Might there also be some Francis insecurities thrown in there as well later on? Maybe. But I'm just not convinced that there is going to be some grand torrid love affair between Mary and Bash. I mean, we are talking about Mary here. Selfless, kindhearted Mary. She's not gonna cheat on her husband (physically or otherwise) whom she loves and she's not going to sleep with/covet her friend's husband. __________________
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Don't really know how I feel about this episode...
I'm glad Francis and Bash "made up" and I was surprised to enjoy their scene as much as I did in this episode. Bask being forced to marry a sobbing Kenny while still having feelings for Mary and being made master of horsed and hunt (which mean he'll see Mary everyday in the castle)? LAUGHABLE!!! So Mary still isn't pregnant, Lola can't fit her dresses anymore and both Kenna and Greer are aware of her pregnancy. Nosty and Olivia kissing? YEAH!!! My reactions says a lot considering I hate Olivia. I really thought that it would be Peppercorn taht would caught Greer and Leith and to my suprise it was in fact Julien who did. You gotta love Peppercorn though, now Greer is engaged to him and I think that's the best match she could make. Julien and Lola are engaged as well. Let me take 2 seconds to talk about Julien....HOT HOT HOT HOT and so much HOTTER in motion than in the pictures. I just wanted to take a bite out of his ass during the entire episode. Lola? You are a Lucky girl. Get married soon and make the baby his...you got my blessing LOL __________________
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Greer is from the gentry class, so she's a commoner and doesn't have a title. She's socially a lesser, but that doesn't make her a nobody. England had three queens from the gentry class before Greer was even born (Elizabeth Woodville, Anne Boleyn, and Jane Seymour). And we know that Greer is incredibly wealthy. In the pilot she mentioned all the silks and jewelery her parents had shipped to the French court for Mary and the LIW to make up for her lack of title. Basically, gentry were acceptable to marry nobles and be queen's LIW if they were wealthy. __________________
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ParsD, isn't Catherine's line about Greer that she's "ridiculously rich?" Which considering who Catherine is, is saying something. Woman had bank.
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Also I want to add Katherine Parr and Katherine Howard to the list of English queens that began as gentry. That makes five. Plus the Queen of France.... Basically Greer's lack of title doesn't make her a nobody anymore than those queens were. __________________
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i dont even care about the rest, imo Catherine doesnt see her as anything, she is nobody to Catherine.. but again it gets turned into a debate it has nothing to do with which so often happens on this thread...Moving on... Last edited by Leelala; 03-27-2014 at 12:02 AM |
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And Greer is not a nobody to Catherine. Before Greer even arrived at the French court Catherine knew of her, and knew her net worth.... Mary's LIW are important political pawns. That's why LIW are noblewoman and wealthy gentry and not poor commoners. __________________
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