jediwands

Exactly. It was so pathetic. I do remember people discussing live and they thought it was insane. Everyone understood what Mark was doing. Notice no one even rips Leyton for being so absent after they left. It is because:

1. People recognize the show wasn't the same after Chad/Hilarie left.
2. Those digs about Lucas and Peyton basically abandoning Tree Hill (according to Monster) was so out of character ridiculous it was ignored.

Becca456

Clay and Quinn are putting me to sleep. I had to spoil myself to see if they would ever leave the show. I ended up reading that Clay forgot he was a father, Nathan gets kidnapped by European gangsters and Julian and Brooke end up having twins and he leaves one of them in the car?

jediwands

One Tree Hill : Welcome to the opposite of high quality Everwood.



Seriously, it goes from bad to worse.

I absolutely loathe Clay/Quinn. It was so obvious Monster was trying to replace Lucas and Peyton but failed miserably. This horrible pairing is basically shoved down our throats until the very end of the series. Clay forgetting he has a child... as a psychologist I have so many issues with this and it doesn't help matters I cannot stand the character in general. Nathan kidnapping is absolutely ridiculous and apparently due to James wanting some time off. Or in Monster's sick mind it was a clever way to deal with a lack of James. Julian and the car thing is just dumb.

Awful. Awful. Awful.

Jana/Alex is the main reason I got through this mess.

Jerry D

One Tree Hill was yet another show that started out good but later became a caricature of itself with totally ridiculous and outlandish storylines.

jediwands

^ Exactly right. The series should've ended either after four seasons or the second it was announced Chad and Hilarie were not returning.

Jerry D

Most shows centered around High School characters fail once the characters are no longer in High School. Everwood was the exception but it was unique in that the adult characters were just as important as the teenage characters, maybe even more so. It was a true ensemble show.

jediwands

Precisely, Jerry.

Only Everwood.

Those who haven't watched Everwood are severely missing out. Shows like Everwood simply don't exist anymore. Everwood is such a rare gem you embrace and hang on for dear life knowing you'll never experience such greatness again.

stlavin95

Yeah, it's was very clear why those digs were happening which is why you couldn't take them seriously.

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jediwands

^ Love it!

jediwands

Husband and Wife working together!

jediwands

Precisely. He looks petty, immature and ridiculous. His immaturity here should have given a hint he was unstable.

Jerry D

I always thought it was weird that Mark played a character that was basically obsessed with Peyton. Talk about art imitating life!

jediwands

Right?! So bizarre. He was so obsessed with Hilarie, in order to play out his fantasy, he wrote it to hit the screen so he could fully participate. It makes my skin crawl.