jediwands

So true. Three Miners From Everwood played out like a mini-movie. It was so perfectly put together. I think why this current episode is weaker in this sense is because of the foreshadowing parts we have to endure for Ephram/Madison. Clearly this episode was setting them up for a romantic relationship so we have to watch it slowly play out, while reaching for anti-nausea medication. Yes, not having Madison in Three Miners From Everwood was glorious.

I only know because I have some of these abilities so learning from family members that I was not crazy (and within the family lol) along with research is how I have learned this stuff. Clearly someone within the Everwood creative team either has similar abilities or researched and learned about it which was very nice to see.

Oh really? I haven't seen the actor who plays Phil in anything else.

Good point. I do remember when my parents got me my first car it's the first thing my mom said. She didn't want me to have a super small car which is what I desired due to gas mileage. She wanted me in a bigger car that she felt was safer should I get into an accident. I jokingly told her OK but then they can help me with purchasing gas. They did, too. They knew I couldn't work then due to being consumed with sports and studies so they did pay for most of my gas.

Emily shined. Yes, I just don't understand the Abbott siblings. It was right in front of them.

Can you believe some fans literally thought Ephram/Madison was a good learning experience for Ephram? I will never understand this line of thinking. How? She got pregnant! She was embarrassed to be seen with him. It was not a legal relationship. Nothing about this relationship brought anything good to Ephram. Nothing.

Such high quality you had to watch it twice. I did!



So far we have survived Madison and Ephram/Madison S2. I guess we should be happy about this.

Saranoh

The actor who played Phil won an Oscar for “ Whiplash.” He’s fantastic.

jediwands

Wow. Really?! That’s incredible. I’m going to have to watch this!

Jerry D

Three Miners from Everwood was an absolutely incredible episode. I think it was one of the best episodes of the entire show.

That's wonderful. You have such a gift.

J.K. Simmons, who played Phil, is a very gifted character actor who's an Academy Award winner. Here is an article about him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._K._Simmons

One thing that also made Everwood so great is that it had top-notch actors even in guest starring roles.

That was so nice of them. You had a Ford Thunderbird correct? I had a 1986 Ford Thunderbird and a 1997 Ford Thunderbird. My 1997 Ford Thunderbird is my favorite car of all time. My first car was a piece of junk Dodge Colt. It was literally in the shop more than it was on the road. I swore that I would never buy a used car after that and I haven't.

Exactly, it was definitely right in front of them, especially Harold.

I remember that and it was so ridiculous that anyone would view Ephram and Madison as something positive.

Exactly!

LOL!

everwoodfan52

Teresa has good taste!

Jerry D

The Pacey and Joey scenes where they both mugged for the camera were nauseating.

Jerry D

jediwands

Right? I love your description. That is precisely it. Seriously, I hate to admit it but I rather see Madison over Pacey/Joey. At least Madison was never a true romantic threat to Ephram/Amy and while she did her share of causing chaos in general, it was never a true triangle and Sarah did do a good job with Madison given the intention of the character.

Pacey/Joey were a nightmare, changing the entire essence of the series. Joey's character turned into a cutesy mess and Pacey had this sullen, deep, dark depressing voice that made you want to poke your eyes out. Couldn't stand anything about Pacey/Joey, their individual characters, or how the actors portrayed them from S3 and on.

So I guess score one for Madison.

jediwands

I agree.

Thank you!

Wow, I am embarrassed. I live under a rock so much. I had no idea, thank you for the article!

This is so very true. This show was a gem from start to finish. There was nothing low-quality about Everwood.

I did, indeed! Ford Thunderbirds were wonderful. What are you currently driving?

Especially Harold.

Do you blame Rose at all for her passiveness?

I will never understand it.

Saranoh

I could see teens viewing Ephron/Madison as a positive just because the age difference doesn’t seem that big. As an adult you see how gross it is, though.

jediwands

Spot on. We had several teens on the EM thread back in the day. We had a few that liked them "remembering" their teen days. A couple guys who thought it was like a fantasy to have an older girl/adult liking them. So there were various reasons but precisely what you said... thinking like an adult, it's clear how utterly gross it is and the pairing was not meant to be seen in a positive light.

Jerry D

You're welcome!

Don't feel embarrassed. I didn't know all that either, and I didn't know the actor's name until I looked it up. He's had quite a career though!

Absolutely.

What year was your car?

A 2017 Ford Fusion. I like it, but I don't like it as much as my 1997 Thunderbird.

Yes I do. She should have stood up to Harold and put her foot down. She tried, but it wasn't enough.

Neither will I.

jediwands

He certainly has! He’s won 4 major different kinds of awards. Absolutely incredible. Everwood had this guy (and so many other brilliant actors) as a guest star. Incredible.

Why did they stop making Thunderbirds? They were the best!

Mine was a black 1998 Ford Thunderbird. I drove it around so proud and happy. I seriously loved it.

Exactly. I really wish she would have. My mom would have lead the charge.



It’s not a coincidence that Berlanti prevented Ephram and Amy from sharing scenes during this time. Not only would it make a mockery of their current love interests (with the Ephram/Amy connection visible Ephram/Madison never would be able to be forced down our throats) but Ephram would have been the one immediately picking up on Amy’s paralyzing suffering.

Jerry D

Yes, Everwood had first rate actors, even as guest stars. They had James Earl Jones as a semi-recurring character, and he's a legend!

I'll never understand why they stopped making Thunderbirds. It was an incredible car. They stopped making our style of Thunderbird in 1997, (so your 1998 Thunderbird was manufactured in 1997, which is normal) and then they came back as a Two-Seater version from 2002–2005 that was supposed to resemble the original 1955-1957 Two-Seater Thunderbirds, but the cars were way overpriced and they didn't sell well, so they discontinued the brand. It's really too bad because I loved my Ford Thunderbird and I would have kept buying them.

I always felt that Rose was somewhat of a passive character in general. I really liked her but I wish that she would have stood up to Harold more, especially at this critical time.

That's very true. Ephram already had picked up on Amy's suffering, but they purposely kept them both apart so they could be in their bad relationships, Ephram with Madison and Amy with Tommy.

jediwands

Absolutely!

You cannot get any better than James Earl Jones.

These brilliant guest stars had to buy into the story, the energy of the show. They never would’ve guest starred on Dawson’s Creek or One Tree Hill.

Only Everwood.

I would have as well! I loved it so much. My favorite car by far. I’ve had Honda’s ever since mostly and I do like them overall. Smooth drive, if you keep up with maintenance they will last forever… but my Ford Thunderbird will always be my first love.

Agreed. Well said. It just doesn’t make sense because she was literally the mayor of Everwood. You shouldn’t be passive as a mayor. Especially in such a conservative town. It’s amazing enough a woman was elected mayor. You would assume she would have a large voice as a result. Yet at home with her husband she was passive concerning her children.

^^^ Berlanti knew Ephram and Amy were way too powerful together so he had to separate them during this time period.