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Kevney #6 {Kevin Costner|Whitney Houston}: Star Crossed Lovers

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"Whitney if you could hear me now, you weren't just good enough, you were great. People just don't like you Whitney, they love you." "Off you go Whitney, off you go."

"It's very easy to fall in love with Whitney"

"I promised her two things," "That I would be right there with her, and she would not be bad."

"It was really nice, really a joy to work with Kevin," , "and it had a lot to do with his personality. He is down-to-earth; he doesn't trip. He's into his work. And he's very kind, he's effective and he's considerate".

"That was more exciting for me than the actual idea that he is this hunk Kevin Costner. Yes, he's a hunk and he's sexy. We all know that, but that's not what I was looking for."

"We kind of made a deal," "He loves to sing, he loves music"

"Okay, Kevin, I'll help you with your singing if you help me with the acting."

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Future Titles:


The Feeling Of Love Was Mutual, But Not Always Vocal

He Waited For Her

They Were A World Class Couple

Their Love Wasn't Meant To Be, But They Still Held Onto It All Those Years

They Were In Love, But It Wasn't Meant To Be

Not Meant To Be, But Still Soulmates

He Gets So Emotional Every Time He Thinks of Her

They Had The Greatest Love Story Never Told

An Endless Love

Their Love Will Never Die

They were soulmates Before The Bodyguard

He Loved Her No Matter What

She Was The Love Of His Life

The Love Story That Never Was

Where Will His Broken Heart Go

Whitney Is The Only One Who Gets The LOVE And Twice

They Missed Their Destiny

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Kevin's Eulogy To His One True Love, Whitney.


I'd like to thank Cissy and Dionne for the honor of being here, for everybody in the Church treating my wife and I so gracefully. I'll say some stories, maybe some of them you know, maybe some of them you don't. I wrote them down because I didn't want to miss anything. A song "I will always love you” almost wasn't. It wasn't supposed to be in the movie. The first choice was going to be "What becomes of a broken heart", but it had been out the year before in another movie and we felt it wouldn't have the impact, and so we couldn't use it. So what becomes of our broken hearts? Whitney returns home today to the place where it all began, and I urge us all inside and outside, across the nation and around the world to dry our tears, suspend our sorrow and perhaps our anger just long enough, just long enough to remember the sweet miracle of Whitney. Never forgetting that Cissy and Bobbi Kristina are sitting among us. Your mother and I had a lot in common. I know many at this moment are thinking, really? She's a girl, you're a boy. You're white. She's black. We heard you like to sing, but our sister could really sing. So what am I talking about? Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston, they don't have anything in common at all. Well, you'd be wrong about that. We both grew up in the Baptist Church.

It wasn't as big as this. My grandmother played the piano, and she led the choir, and her two daughters, my mom and my aunt both sang in it. The rest of my family, uncles, cousins sat every Sunday out front and watched. My earliest memories are tied to that old Church in paramount. I remember seeing a gold shovel going into the ground and people praying about it and thinking, wow, something big was going to go here, and I watched my father and the rest of the men build it from the ground up. I was probably 4 years old and seemed to be always in the way. I wanted to help. I wanted to be in on the action. One of the men snapped down a red line where the choir would be standing one day and said, "have at it", as many nails as you want all in this line. I always took great comfort in watching my mom and aunt sing knowing that they would never fall through that floor where I had worked. The Church was the center of our social life and Whitney and I would laugh knowing it was also the place where we could really get into big trouble especially when you were allowed to sit with your friends and not your parents in the big Church. I remember more than once being pulled from the pew for whispering and passing notes. I don't believe my feet ever hit the floor as my father hauled me outside in front of everyone. I believed even the preacher prayed for me. Whitney's favorite story of mine was me sneaking into the Church kitchen after communion. I liked the little glasses of grape juice that were left over. I liked how they felt in my hand. I couldn't have been over 6 at the time, but I would lean against the table and one by one I would knock them back. Having some image near conversation with someone my father would find me and ask me what I was doing. I told him I was a cowboy and I was drinking whiskey. I don't think my feet touched the floor that day either.

It was easy for us to laugh. The Church was what we knew. It was our private bond. I can see her in my own mind running around here as a skinny little girl knowing everyone, everyone's business, knowing every inch of this place. I can also see her in trouble, too. Trying to use that beautiful smile, trying to talk her way out of it and Cissy not having any of it. Mostly the days of Church were good ones for us and we both remembered how our parents tried to explain God and the plan he had for our lives and we agreed that there was this feeling, this promise that if somehow we listened carefully God's voice would somehow come to us. I told Whitney that I always worried God was going to ask me to be a Preacher. I wasn't sure how much fun ours had. Whitney told me she wasn't worried at all. She wasn't going to wait for a whisper. She was going to be like her cousin Dionne and her beautiful mother Cissy. There is no doubt that she has joined their ranks and as the debate heats up this century and it surely will, about the greatest singer of the last century, as the lists are drawn, they will have little meaning to me if her name is not on it.

But as sure as I am of Whitney's place in musical history, from the first time she took center stage here as a teenager, flushed with the excitement that she had exceeded everyone's expectations and awesome promise of what was to come. It's still needing to hear from her mother about how she was received. Was she good enough? Could I have done better? Did they really like me? Or are they just being polite because they were scared of you, Cissy? These are the private questions that Whitney would always have that would always follow her. At the height of her fame as a singer I asked her to be my co-star in a movie called "The Bodyguard." I thought she was the perfect choice, but the red flags came out immediately. Maybe I should think this over a bit. I was reminded that this would be her first acting role. We could also think about another singer, was a suggestion. Maybe somebody white. Nobody ever said it out loud, but it was a fair question, it was. There would be a lot riding on this, maybe a more experienced person was the way to go. It was clear, I needed to think about this. I told everyone that I had taken notice that Whitney was black. The only problem was I thought she was perfect for what we were trying to do. There was a bit of relief in the room when we found out that Whitney was going to be on tour and she wouldn't be available for our movie. The anxiety came right back when I said we should postpone and wait a year.

That was a lot for the studio to accept, and to their credit, they did but not without a screen test. Whitney would have to earn it. That was the first time I saw the doubt. The doubt creep into her that she would not be handed the part. She would have to be great. The day the test came I went into her trailer after the hair and makeup people were done, Whitney was scared. Arguably, the biggest pop star in the world wasn't sure if she was good enough. She didn't think she looked right. There were a thousand things to her that seemed wrong. I held her hand and told her that she looked beautiful. I told her that I would be with her every step of the way, that everyone there wanted her to succeed, but I could still feel the doubt. I wanted to tell her that the game was rigged. That I didn't care how the test went, that she could fall down and start speaking in tongues, that somehow I would find a way to explain it as an extraordinary acting choice.

And we could expect more to follow, and gee, weren't we lucky to have her. That wouldn't have been fair. It wouldn't have been fair to Lawrence who had written the screenplay 15 years earlier. It wouldn't have been fair to Warner Brothers and it wasn't the right signal to send to Whitney. She took it all in and asked me if she could have a few minutes by herself and would meet me on the set. I was sure she was praying. After about 20 minutes later she came out. We hadn't said four lines when we had to stop. The lights were turned off, and I walked Whitney off the set and back to her room. She wanted to know what was wrong, and I needed to know what she'd done during those 20 minutes. She said, "nothing." in only the way she could, nothing. So I turned her around so that she could see herself in the mirror and she gasped. All of the makeup on Whitney's face was running. It was streaking down her face and she was devastated. She didn't feel like the makeup we put on her was enough so she'd wiped it off and put on the makeup that she was used to wearing in her music videos. It was much thicker and the hot lights had melted it. She asked if anyone had seen -- if anyone had, I said I didn't think so. It happened so quick, she seemed so small and sad at that moment, and I asked her why she did it? She said I just wanted to look my best. It's a tree we can all hang from. Unexplainable burden that comes with fame, call it doubt, call it fear. I've had mine, and I know the famous in the room have had theirs. I asked her to trust me and she said she would. A half hour later she went back in to do her screen test and the studio fell in love with her. The Whitney I knew, despite her success and worldwide fame still wondered am I good enough? Am I pretty enough? Will they like me? It was the burden that made her great, and the part that caused her to stumble in the end. Whitney, if you could hear me now I would tell you, you weren't just good enough, you were great. You sang the whole damn song without a band. You made the picture what it was. A lot of leading men could have played my part. A lot of guys could have filled that role, but you. Whitney, I truly believe were the only one that could have played Rachel Marron at that time.

You weren't just pretty, you were as beautiful as a woman could be. People didn't just like you, Whitney, they loved you. I was your pretend bodyguard once not so long ago, and now you're gone, too soon, leaving us with memories, memories of a little girl that stepped bravely in front of this Church, in front of the ones that loved you first. In front of the ones that loved you best and loved you the longest. The bolder you stepped into the white hot light of the world stage, and what you did is the rarest of achievements. You set the bar so high that professional singers, your own colleagues, they don't want to sing that little country song. What would be the point? Now the only ones who sing your songs are young girls like you, who are dreaming of being you some day, and so do you Bobbi Kristina and to all those young girls who are dreaming that dream, that maybe thinking are they good enough? I think Whitney would tell you guard your bodies, guard the precious miracle of your own life, and then sing your hearts out knowing that there's a lady in Heaven who is making God himself wonder how he created something so perfect. So off you go, Whitney, off you go. Escorted by an army of angels to your heavenly Father, and when you sing before him don't you worry, you'll be good enough.


A Glimpse Into Two Worlds: Kevney

God gave Whitney a glimpse of what her life would be like had she married someone with Kevin's character, He gave her a glimpse of what it would be liked to be loved unconditionally, a glimpse of what it is like to be respected by a man, a glimpse of what it is like to be treated like a lady, a glimpse of what it is like to be given compliments, a glimpse of what it is like to be accepted for who you are. I firmly believe that Kevin had discernment when he saw the script of the Bodyguard, and he knew in his heart of hearts that Whitney should be his leading lady, but at the same time he could not understand why. He could of sat on his own questioning God as to why he had the strong urge to have her act alongside of him - he went against all odds to have her, even decided to wait ONE WHOLE YEAR for her to complete her tour. The glimpse she saw about Kevin she might have never experienced it before with any other man that she might have been in a relationship with, and maybe just maybe she did not know how to embrace such love and respect. Recalling she was already in a relationship with the other person. She had a glimpse of what it is like to be transparent with Kevin and to see his transparency as well, a glimpse of showing her vulnerable side yet being told "it is okay"

Kevin was already in a marriage when he strongly wanted her to act with him, she had already entered and seen the glimpse of the world she was about to enter. Two years later he divorces, a year after the Bodyguard she gives birth to a little girl (stand corrected with her daughter's birth year) - was this the world she had to share with Kevin maybe, who knows - did he ever share with her that he wanted her in his world, I cannot say - yet to this day he has hidden her in the corner of his heart where in his quiet moments he can reflect on much.

On the flip side of the same coin, she has a glimpse of how a man can disrespect her (the other person), a glimpse of verbal abuse, a glimpse of emotional abuse, a glimpse of being put through every psychological abuse that any human could of experienced. A glimpse of never been told she is beautiful, a glimpse of never been told she is talented etc. she gave love but did not receive love, she gave respect but did not receive respect, she showed her transparent side but did not receive the same, she showed her vulnerability but was never protected from harm. I believe this person only stepped into her life to be a destructive force, to rob her of her God given talent, rob her of her wealth, her looks, her character and all that needed to be stripped from her life, and once the deed was done walk away and leave her to the wolves to complete that which was started.

One coin, yet a glimpse into two different worlds - one man sent to bless her (Kevin), the other enters to be a curse (the other person)


MS. WHITNEY ELIZABETH HOUSTON CHANGE OF ADDRESS


Please be advised that I have moved, I received a call from God, the Chief Architect the other day, and He informed me that my new home was complete.

You all knew that I had been working on my new residence, sending up my timber, packing up and getting ready to go. I know that my house needed some finishing touches and that the Chief Carpenter, Jesus Christ had to inspect it and give me the final approval. On Saturday, February 11, 2012 around 3:55pm He let me know that my home was complete and that it was ok to move in. So He told me to go ahead and change my address.

Well, my new home is finished and what a sight it is to behold. It is located on an exclusive estate area behind a beautiful pearly gate. It is just over the other side of serene celestial shore. Of course, you know the streets are paved with gold and every day is Sunday, just like you've been told. Trees with twelve manners of fruit grace my garden here, and I can walk and talk with my Master with not a worry or care.

I lived in a home built by man, for only a short time, but my new home is so much better than any other place I've ever lived. There is peace here, joy, happiness, no pain, no heartaches, no strife or discontentment, only sweet serenity. I can dine at the Master's bountiful table and listen to a Heavenly choir and best of all, my Heavenly Father is here...in all His Glory.

Oh yes, I have my own designer here who has fitted me with my very own white robe and wings. I could go on and on about my new home, but instead, I'm going to pray that you get to move here yourself one day. Before I go, let me give you my new address:

Whitney Elizabeth Houston.

1963 Heavenly Way.

Godstown, Heaven

A Mother's Letter To Her Baby:


Dearest Whitney:

The presence of God blessed our home with life, love, joy and peace. You and your brothers were the center of divine love attracting God’s richest blessings. You were a child of God. We had so much love in our home that was truly from on high.

You always gave without expecting anything in return and our love was the force that multiplied these blessings higher and higher. I never told you that when you were born the Holy Spirit told me that you would not be with me long and I thank God for the beautiful flower he allowed me to raise and cherish for 48 years.

God said it’s time Nippy; your work is done. The other day on February 11th He came for you. But not without warning. For two months now I have been depressed, crying, lonesome and sad not knowing why.

On Saturday, before I found out about your transition, my doorbell rang. I went to answer it but there was no one there. It rang again and again, no one was there so I called the concierge to tell him someone was ringing my doorbell. He checked the cameras and told me that no one was there. You promised me you were coming to spend time with me after the Grammys. I believe the spirits allowed you to come after all.

How I love you Nippy and how I miss you, your beautiful smile, your special little things you used to say to me and sometimes you’d call just to say “hi Mommie, I love you so much,” I loved you so much more.

I love you,

I’ll miss you,

Thank you for being such a wonderful daughter.

Rest my baby girl in Peace, you’re now in the arms of Jesus.

Love, Mommie


A Daughter's Words:

Mommie,

Having the refreshing presence of God,
Is such a great gift.
And to be refreshed and watered,
To grow as a lily,
Is love in action.
You are a true beauty

love,
Krissy
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I agree with you both.

What do you guys think of their trying to make a bodyguard 2 with Jennifer Hudson plus Clive feels she the next Whitney Houston? I bet Kevin saying, No about anybody being better than Whitney for the part. I'm really mad about they should leave a classic lone: mad:
I think its a classic and they need to leave it alone I feel like Clive is WRONG no offense but WHITNEY is NOT replaceable like he is tryin to make it seem!!
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thanks for the new thread.


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I think its a classic and they need to leave it alone I feel like Clive is WRONG no offense but WHITNEY is NOT replaceable like he is tryin to make it seem!!
Exactly. Whitney Houston is incomparable and irreplaceable. she has the total package of beauty, talent, wit and elegance. Clive Davis is talking nonsense as far as I'm concerned.

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Exactly. Whitney Houston is incomparable and irreplaceable. she has the total package of beauty, talent, wit and elegance.
I agree. Leave it alone it's a classic & irreplaceable. Whitney & Kevin are Rachel & Frank.
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Seriously the man can deny it all he wants, but we all know the truth and no one not even him saying something like that can ever change our opinions.
100% Agree with you Erica & Thanks for the new thread

& VERY FUNNY @GOBSMACKED82...Not really too surprised because its obvious to tell from previous posts that you're a jokester LOL
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Hey ladies I have a kinda question to ask do you think we should name their "children"?
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Hey ladies I have a kinda question to ask do you think we should name their "children"?
Kevney should definitely be one of the names. Maybe Coston for the boy lol
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Hey ladies I have a kinda question to ask do you think we should name their "children"?
Brittany for the girl sounds like Whitney. IDK


I'm tryng to figure out if Whitney stated she didn't want Kevin tongue in her mouth then why by the pool its clearly you can see his tougue is in her mouth was that added to the movie or something Kevin did on his own?

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Kevney should definitely be one of the names. Maybe Coston for the boy lol
Kevney & Coston that's funny LOL and actually they don't sound half bad, but I don't know. Names should match the faces don't you think?

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I'm tryng to figure out if Whitney stated she didn't want Kevin tongue in her mouth then why by the pool its clearly you can see his tongue is in her mouth was that added to the movie or something Kevin did on his own?
I'm not sure about this.
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Brittany for the girl sounds like Whitney. IDK


I'm tryng to figure out if Whitney stated she didn't want Kevin tongue in her mouth then why by the pool its clearly you can see his tougue is in her mouth was that added to the movie or something Kevin did on his own?
I remember her saying that in a interview, but I honestly think Whitney just said that to protect the relationship she had at the time & be respectful of Kevin's wife. I think Kevin added that one in all on his own because he did say that the intimate scenes got pretty intense.

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Kevney & Coston that's funny LOL and actually they don't sound half bad, but I don't know. Names should match the faces don't you think?



I'm not sure about this.
LOL, you're right they should match their faces. Imma try to think of some better names
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I remember her saying that in a interview, but I honestly think Whitney just said that to protect the relationship she had at the time & be respectful of Kevin's wife. I think Kevin added that one in all on his own because he did say that the intimate scenes got pretty intense.
Yes I remember that too and I think he probably added it in too and I also agree about Whitney was probably trying to be respectful.


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LOL, you're right they should match their faces. Imma try to think of some better names
Okay take your time.
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I think its a classic and they need to leave it alone I feel like Clive is WRONG no offense but WHITNEY is NOT replaceable like he is tryin to make it seem!!
That also just tells you how much Clive cared for Whitney: He went on with his stupid party while her body was still upstairs in her room. she was only a moneymaker for him. I like Jennifer Hudson, but she is no Whitney Houston. Clive is your Cy from The Bodyguard: ready to make a buck anyway he can-remember how after Frank has been shot, he is busy picking up the blood-stained award envelope from the stage? Very very sad... the way the industry uses these singers .
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I just love these pics...

So precious!









-this is just way too adorable!



aww Bobbi with her little stuffed animal

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tftnt.

great pictures of Whitney with her daughter.
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tftnt.

great pictures of Whitney with her daughter.
you cannot deny that bond!
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