AchrisL

I'll say it again CB knows the deal. Before she existed so to speak (and not intented to be mean spirited) there was Whitney.

Neither ever denied one another. He talked more because he could. But she gave him his props. CB looks out of place in some ways. It is nice she keeps a low profile so to speak.

Many side eyes this - she was not passing up marrying him and she had conditions attached. she can't claim to be an innocent. I don't see her as a victim.

As for the ring there are still alot of rich folks who don't wear showy jewelry. If anyone deserved it it was Cindy and she didn't flash a huge rock.

***RayJ was a friend who wanted more than she was going to give. Did I post that interview? Let me get it and you decide.

http://youtu.be/AYuBPkaAkS0

80s90sIsTheBest

Look at this ladies:

Bobbi Kristina to honor Whitney Houston during Billboard Music Awards

this makes me very happy I can't wait to see what Bobbi will do for her mother and what her role will be in this. She's the best person to give her mother a tribute if that's what's going to happen.

teatrolafenice

Originally Posted by casual observer (View Post)
He would've been man enough to take care of her problems once and for all and not let her continue to destroy herself.
Originally Posted by EricaCallieShipper (View Post)
I definitely agree with this 100%

I second that opinion! if only, if only, if only ..........

Originally posted by casual observer(View Post)
I agree--Whitney is not acting--as a woman I am certain she is fantasizing about being taken by Kevin for real. No way is she a good enough actress to fake that. I can't believe for a second that she was imagining it was (shudder) BB lifting her up either. ewwww....
Originally Posted by EricaCallieShipper (View Post)
Agree with this as well there's definitely no way they were just acting-both of them, but especially Whitney. It was real, no acting there for sure. Even if you aren't really looking there's natural chemistry between them both so it just comes you know... natural.

I also agree with this 100%! Interesting observation from my end ... there was NOTHING on television last night (yeah ... I know ... hard to believe with 1000 channels) So I decided to watch ... what else ... TBG! My 83 year old mother spent the day w/ us for Mother's Day. Bear in mind, she's 83 (almost 84) & isn't really much into movies or entertainment in general. She only vaguely knows who WH was & that she passed away fairly recently, but other than the name sounding somewhat familier, she knows nothing about KC or any of the chatter, speculation, or whatever you want ot call it, about the two of them (personally, I call it the truth, but that's another post!). Anyway ... we watch the enire movie, I'm crying @ the end ... as always ... & she looks at me & says "those two were NOT ACTING". My hand to God, those were her EXACT words. I turned to look @ her & said, "you don't think so?", & her answer was "Sharon Lynn ... Lawrence Olivier wasn't THAT good of an actor"! So you see, girls ... it's NOT JUST US!

80s90sIsTheBest

Wow awesome story I'm glad it's not just us! thanks so much for sharing it with us.

Raven03

The old are full of wisdom. You kno it makes me wonder about the goodbye kiss scene...if Kevin and Whitney had like a semi falling out and maybe this was the last scene they were shooting and that kiss was their way of saying, 'lets not part like this.'

80s90sIsTheBest

That's very possible I like that idea if true. It's a good way to look at that kiss too for Kevney.

AchrisL

Gobsmacked

That update was interesting. Do the one at the awards. She has lost the baby and moved on so let's have some more, with less guilt. (LOL)

teatrolafenice

YES! Pretty please!!!!! And I loved the Perfect Gentleman update ... as someone said "it was all warm & fuzzy"! 'Can't believe I lasted almost an entire week without one of your convos!

GobSmacked82

See, I would like a vintage engagement ring, especially an art deco estate ring from the 20s. Those things are beautiful! I thought I read where it was that loudmouth Joan Rivers who pointed out how small it was, and shamed KC into buying a bigger one. He shoulda stood his ground and really proved that CB wasn't just there for the money and the bling.

I bet if Kevin had proposed to Whitney (in another universe/timeline/plane/whatever) and given her a vintage ring, and they showed up at a red carpet and Joan Rivers tried that mess, Whitney would have shut Joan down.

Joan Rivers: Good evening, guys. You look great. Kevin Costner and Whitney Houston, everybody. Get to making ridiculously good looking babies, already, would you two?
Whitney: Ha, ha! Girl, you crazy!
Joan Rivers: Let me see the ring.
Whitney shows it.
Joan Rivers: Oh my G-d! I need my prescription glasses to see that puny thing. It's so tiny. And where is that cut from? Van Cleef & Arpels? Tacori?
Whitney: Um, no. Joan.
Joan Rivers: Harry Winston at least? Michael B.?
Kevin: None of the above. It's classic vintage art deco. From the 20s. It's an estate piece I found while we were in—
Joan Rivers: You couldn't even spring for Tiffany, Kevin?!?! What a shame. It makes my daughter's ring look like it just had a baby. You could have done better than that for a superstar.
Whitney: Well, I didn't ask him to clean out his wallet, Joan. That's not even necessary.
Joan Rivers: Honey, we all know you love to stand by your man. In the case of your last marriage, a little too much. But this little ice chip in a tin band is not up to par, Whitney.
Whitney: You know what Joan, we're not into being flashy. Anyway, I had a bling-bling engagement ring on my first marriage and look what that got me. I think it's better for everyone, including you, to try to be tasteful.
Kevin: I tried to warn you, Joan.
Whitney: Like your makeup for instance, Joan. It's a little sharp and shrewish for a woman your age. Instead of worrying about the rocks on people's hands, worry about what all that Botox and face-stretching is doing to your personality. Oh! I see Quincy (Jones). A man with real class, which is much needed right now. Let's go, baby.



Yeah, he just does not look impressed on his wedding day. I'm thinking: She's cute, she's throwing her arms all up around him, and he all, but him? Geez! At first I thought maybe it was hot, the sun was in his face and he was squinting, this that and the other. But he just looks bored, plain and simple. And the canoe ride? I understand that some things are romantic, but that just seemed juvenile. Like it was straight out of one of those MTV "Sweet 16" nightmare reality shows where some bratty girl acts like a tyrant for a day and makes grown ups do stupid things. It was right up there with this wedding in for a girl I went to high school with. Man, she had a raggedy old horse drawn carriage riding through the decrepit streets of Detroit on her wedding day. Some girly fantasies need to be put away with the Barbie dolls, OK? Sorry! That's my last catty comment about his second marriage! It's his wife, his life and ain't nobody ask me and my lips are sealed after this.


I agree--Whitney is not acting--as a woman I am certain she is fantasizing about being taken by Kevin for real. No way is she a good enough actress to fake that. I can't believe for a second that she was imagining it was (shudder) BB lifting her up either. ewwww....

btw--great idea for the screenshot--only us shippers would fully 'get' it.[/QUOTE]


When I first saw The Bodyguard, I thought the expression on her face was a little, well, that something extra was behind it. Like I know it's a thrill for a hot guy to rescue you from a mob in a club, and beat up the riffraff to clear a path out, but she looked like she was in ecstasy.

And then he hit it & quit it. Jerk. I knew Frank Farmer was a tightwad load of trouble when he took a beautiful superstar to a greasy dive country bar for dinner. What kind of date was that??? I mean, they didn't even have linen table cloths or a snotty maitre d'! When this movie first came out and I was complaining about it, my cousin stuck up for Frank and told me to can it. LOL.

You are welcome.

The last post was a complete accident! And I was doing so well ...

GobSmacked82

At the Oscars? I did one set at the 1999 Oscars. It was a 3-parter, called "You Trashed My Kitchen." I didn't know about he misfortune of her miscarriage when I first wrote it. But the link is up on the first page, courtesy of Carolyn and Shiroja, I think.

I'm thinking up pre-quels next.

AchrisL

Gobsmacked

Sorry. How bout they meet a couple months after the miscarriage? How bout she goes to Europe for an engagement and arrives a few days in advance quietly to get some rest and runs into her friend.

BB is off on a movie and because she wants to stay low key until her engagements starts it is quiet. You can do it come on- I'll take a tease at this point.

Raven03

KML!! Aw man...did Joan pick up her botox mouth off the floor?!

Shiroja

Out of respect for Kevin Costner, I don't want to comment too much about his 2nd wife CB - as he is still married to her, and from all outward appearances their marriage seems to be a harmonious one (but then who really knows? Appearances can often be deceiving. A couple can put up a show of a passionate love in front of the cameras, yet come home and be completely distant and cold to each other when no one is watching). Casual observer, you have indeed raised up some valid points and I do agree with you that KC looked very bored and disconnected on his own wedding day. Honestly, when I saw the wedding photos of him and CB, it looked to me more like KC was the father of the bride, instead of the groom. It was a rather telling photo about KC's mindset and feelings about his bride - as they say, a picture speaks a thousand words. There was no light in KC's eyes when he stood beside CB, unlike the way he glowed radiantly when he couldn't help gushing about Whitney during the breaks in-between shooting TBG.

And thanks for sharing the extra information you found. I didn't know about the rumors that KC had reprimanded CB for splurging his hard earned money on her lavish shopping sprees in Europe. Hmmm. It seems like CB has the makings of a Heather Mills (the crazy ***** who duped Paul McCartney into marrying her with her innocent facade, but she turned out to be a real piece of work and very nasty gold-digger. That divorce caused Paul millions but he was glad to be rid of her finally). If CB turns out to be an unkind and cruel wife, then Kevin is too smart of a man to tolerate her for long. However, I don't want to be actively rooting for their marriage to fail - just in case Kevin is reading all this stuff said about CB - as he might take this as a challenge to prove all us naysayers wrong (as Whitney did with Booby Clown). CB may have targeted Kevin and chased him for years, but like you said - no one pointed a gun to his head to marry her. It was his decision. So, I'll just sit back and watch what happens to them in the future, and leave it at that. But whatever it is, I do agree with you that Kevin Costner settled for CB, when the woman he truly wanted was Whitney Houston. Of that, I am very sure of.


Yes, you have posted that before. Initially, I agreed with you that Whitney put Ray J at an arms length, although she enjoyed his company. But then I saw some photos of Ray J putting the moves on Whitney in the backseat of a car (obviously, showing off to the paparazzi who were all around them) and she did not push him off her. Clearly, they were more than friends even though they never admitted to their relationship. Anyway, it wasn't that serious and I don't think Whitney would have married Ray J or anything. He was her rebound guy.


Yes, this is only right that Bobbi Kristina should represent Whitney in accepting this honor. It reminds me of when MJ's kids accepted his awards on his behalf and his son Prince gave a speech during one of the music award shows. It was an emotional moment for everyone watching.

Thanks for sharing! I love how observant old people really are. Most old people I know are very sharp and say the darnest things, like little kids.

zoe1990

Okay, I'm going to add my final two cents on CB as well before resuming my regularly scheduled "obsessing about Kevney" activities. You know, my initial instinct was not to dislike CB. Because she's not an obvious trophy; she's pretty in a very ordinary way. So that made me think that there must be some real connection there - Kevin didn't just run out and marry the hottest 20-something he could find. But OMG. Those wedding photos! I think I'd cry if I were the bride and I saw such sadness in my husband on our wedding day! And he's a professional actor! Posing for People magazine! My gosh, it's almost like it was a cry for help. I still can't figure out why he married her if those pictures capture even a fraction of how he really felt about marrying her. As for why she married him, I think AchrisL said it best:

Yup. CB knows what she signed up for. She gets wealth, kids, and access to the Hollywood world, at least on the periphery. She doesn't get her husband's heart and soul (from outside appearances). That's a horrible deal in my book, but maybe it works just fine for CB. It wouldn't be the first marriage that most closely resembles a business relationship. But they have three small kids, so I hope (if we're not all wrong entirely) that at least it's a cordial business relationship.

GobSmacked82

Yes! And as a parting shot:
Joan Rivers: (To the camera, as WH and KC walk away) I'd give those two five years tops, but knowing stubborn Whitney and romantic Kevin, they'll go for 30. Maybe 50 years just to spite everybody.


Well, her North American and world tour for "Your Love is My Love" started in June 1999 after the Oscars and took her on more than 40 stops in Europe. It was a 6-month world tour that was extended b/c of such high demand! That sounds so taxing.

But I would prefer a convo during that stupid "Being Boooby Brown" reality TV show. We'll see where I go from here:

The day after Boooby's embarrassing shenanigans in Harrod's, Whitney decides to take Bobbi Kristina with her on a day trip to Paris, where they'll stay overnight. After she has checked in to her hotel, Whitney sits out on her terrace. There is a knock at the door, and she answers it to see a hotel staff member, who hands her a note. It reads: "Now that you're here, they can really call this place the 'city of lights.' Want to take a walk? - Kevin'
Whitney gets Bobbi K settled with the nanny and promises to be back in one hour. After she kisses her good-bye, WH heads downstairs, and out the street to a local bookstore. She heads to the back of the store, where a guy in a baseball cap is leaned over an open newspaper on a table. She sits next to him.

WH: Hello.
KC: (Smiles) You made it. I was prepared to wait all day if necessary. You look amazing, like a college track star.
WH: You're trying to flatter me. But that's cool. We have (checks her watch) 50 minutes to catch up, and then I have to relieve the sitter. Can't be apart from Bobbi K. for too long, you know. What are you reading? (She pulls a chair closer to him.)
KC: A book of letters by American authors. These French revere writers. Can you believe it? I should read you some. C'mon over closer. Closer. (He kisses Whitney.)

How's that? It'll have to wait until later this week. Work is busy and my 2-year-old has a nursery school field trip, that I might be going on.