I love that part with Happy.

Bree, to me I still feel there is another reason. I feel there has to because I can't what we've gotten so far to really make Tara feel like that will make Jax go deeper in the club and she'll lose him. I mean I can see what we've gotten so far make him stay in the club and change it. BUT not deeper and her lose him.

Lucky, yea true, but I'm sorry to say I can't let the words mean anything because HE IS HURTING TARA. Hiring or not he is, he didn't just tell Romeo and let them handle everything else which I thought it was originally going to be. He was involved. I know he's NOT PERSONALLY hurting her, but he is in my eyes. If this makes sense.

Haylie, I think I kind of twisted up my theory back there.

I was trying to say how we were all talking about there (possibly) being two seperate things going on with Tara being grabbed. And how it may not be the person Clay hired who is actually grabbing Tara but someone else.

I threw out it being Lobo, if it's them no one would suspect Clay because of this ongoing war.

But other people thought it could be Galindo trying to find out what Tara knows. Someone else said Mayans.

I was just wondering that if it does turn out to be Galindo or the Mayans who take Tara and not the hitman, would Gemma, Unser, and Tara assume that Clay was behind it.

And it plays like, Clay hires an independent contractor to keep Tara's death from being linked to him.

Tara gets kidnapped by someone other than the person Clay hired.

Gemma realizing the fingers-crossed wordplay that Clay used, assumes this is his way of getting rid of Tara without being the one to kill her.

Unser assumes it's Clay getting someone else to do it because Gemma didn't by his crappy set up with Piney.

Tara just assumes it's Clay because she doesn't trust him.

So they all assume Clay is still trying to kill Tara, which is correct. Even though the people who actually took her weren't the ones Clay hired.

It's a little convoluted, but it's just something that occured to me.

wow. wish it was tuesday already so we could find out what's going to happen.

Oh no Lucky, yea I know, I meant the Unser and Gemma part on like how he had several people help him with JT I meant when I was saying the words.
Honestly I HOPE IT'S THE MAYANS. We know she's safe. And I mean you would think WHY WOULD THE MAYANS DO THAT (because ALVAREZ WOULD NOT APPROVE OF THIS even if it's to find info. He wouldn't not this way.) But my thinking is if it's the Mayans they do it this way BECAUSE they somehow found out about the contract killer.

I just want Alvarez to help protect her and help Jax so bad.

Haylie -- I don't think there needs to be anything more for Tara to feel like whatever's hidden in those letters will push Jax further into the club. From the very beginning, it's been so clear that Tara wants to keep Jax from getting hurt. And I absolutely understand her reasoning that the guilt alone he'd feel for hating his father all this time, after finding out how JT really felt before he'd died, would be enough to scare her into thinking it might mean she'd lose him. That's all made sense and is understandable. And that scene -- I don't know if it was her delivery, or the way she was holding herself -- but MS totally broke my heart for Tara, seeing how much she feared losing Jax after everything they'd been through. And I loved that you could see how she felt almost selfish for keeping the letters from him for that reason.

I really heart Maggie Siff. I really do.

If no one else, Unser had better figure it the s**t out that Clay's behind it. Even if he only has suspicions. Someone needs to get on Clay's trail, and fast.

You and me both. More than anything I need to stop speculating. Sutter never does the expected. I know whatever happens is not going to be at all how I've speculated. So I know I should stop.

Because seriously, if I keep this up I'll have twisted things around so much until I'm theorizing that Tara is behind the whole kidnapping. Or something equally crazy or outlandish.

Off to bed for a few hours. Night/morning, Ladies.

I feel now it's harder to speculate than the beginning of the season. It feels like everything we knew wasn't what we thought. It feels like it's a whole different person now. If this makes sense.
It's harder to speculate now and it feels Kurt is really going into things now more words and everything.
Sleep well sweetie

Yeah, have definitely learned that you'll pretty much always get what you don't expect with KS. You think things are heading in one direction and then you're blindsided when something completely different happens.

Still, I'm going to go through all the episodes again and see if I can piece anything else reasonable together. I know it's probably a fruitless task, but it's kind of half the fun. And it's something to do until Tuesday.

God, help me.

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Random thoughts.....

**Need to see Jax naked because it's too much of a dry spell! Dat booty!
**J/T need to get busy and make love in yet another inappropriate location!
**Tara may not have physically birthed Abel, but she's mothered that boy in EVERY way since his birth!
**Still holding out hope for a SAMCRO princess for J/T! Too much testosterone in that clubhouse! LOL!

You know what I just thought of with this thread on Tues probably everyone that's drinking half drunk how interesting our reactions are going to be. If they are going to be worse or what. And the reactions we give.
Bree I felt like at the beginning of this season we were able to predict/speculate more and we were on the right track the past few episodes I felt like it hasn't been the case. I mean I feel like we are in there with them and what I mean is like they just let someone loose and taking out everyone and is unpredictable NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU KNOW THEM. That's what it feels like now.

i think it would be interesting if it was alvarez that 'kidnapped' her in order to save her maybe since he does owe her for getting the bullet out.

Haylie, I agree, and I think that's why we're feeling like we're missing something. There is so much going on and it's becoming really difficult to navigate through it all. And in some cases, even understand it.

I just want this next episode. Even though I'm going to bet that everything just gets more convoluted and complicated.

And I'm fairly certain I'll have reached the tipsy/drunk stage by episodes end. And I know alcohol will make me more emotional, so. I usually refrain from looking in here during airtime because I still have to wait for the hour to be over before I can download. That leaves a lot of time to cave and read comments and hyperventilate over them. I usually do pretty well, but this episode? Yeah, I'm a little more than impatient for it. It's going to be exponentially harder to resist.

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UMMM idk if this is good or bad. But I'm going to hope for good.

OMG OMG OMG OMG WHAT IF IT'S ABOUT THE SEASON FINALE BEING LONGER THAN 90 MINUTES

Then that would be made of absolute win. Absolute.


I won't get too excited. I won't get too excited. I won't get too excited.

Yea I mean it has to be good. Omg I need to know now whatever it is. Just better not be spoilers which I don't think it would be.