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~~ CherylS ~~ 11-22-2006 09:27 AM

But I think Chris is being realistic. He sees adult Rory. I think somewhere in Lorelai's mind she sees Rory coming home. Rory isn't coming home again other than to visit. Now is her time to grow up and start her new life as a professional or maybe a grad student. She isn't going to want SH for anything more than her 'family' is there.
I thought this was a great episode also. Maturity has finaly hit SH. People are dealing with life and living with their decisions. Luke and Lorelai are starting to get their friendship back. Lukes seeing the result of his decisions last season. He set Lorelai free and she truly moved on. May not last but I think they are both going to learn and deal with their mistakes/triumphs.
These writers have a grip on life that ASP never seemed to have. They are treating these people as flawed but living in the real world. I hope it continues.

catkirk7 11-22-2006 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ~~ CherylS ~~ (Post 12800639)
But I think Chris is being realistic. He sees adult Rory. I think somewhere in Lorelai's mind she sees Rory coming home. Rory isn't coming home again other than to visit. Now is her time to grow up and start her new life as a professional or maybe a grad student. She isn't going to want SH for anything more than her 'family' is there.
I thought this was a great episode also. Maturity has finaly hit SH. People are dealing with life and living with their decisions. Luke and Lorelai are starting to get their friendship back. Lukes seeing the result of his decisions last season. He set Lorelai free and she truly moved on. May not last but I think they are both going to learn and deal with their mistakes/triumphs.
These writers have a grip on life that ASP never seemed to have. They are treating these people as flawed but living in the real world. I hope it continues.

Also, Gigi has to live somewhere. She's actually going to be living in the house. YOu can't just stick her in a closet. I just think that Chris can't win no matter what he does. If they'd moved people would be screaming bloody murder that he's changing her and Luke didn't make her move and... This is the only room available for Gigi. I seriously doubt Rory is going to mind.

go_clo 11-22-2006 02:25 PM

Yes but mr. richy rich could have built a room onto the CS...Or just have been considerate enough to ask Lorelai and Rory if it was ok that Gigi had Rory's room. Its not so much the fact that he is pretty much kicking Rory out, its more the fact that he didn't ask permission. Hes going around the house replacing there stuff and adding junk that Lorelai doesn't want.

Luke never did that.
In fact the one time he added something that he thought Lorelai liked, he changed it the second Lorelai told him she hated it.

Lolabelle26 11-22-2006 02:53 PM

I know that this has been said before, but I also found it odd that the CS didn't have any other bedrooms. I mean, didn't LL renovate it last season (for the kids?)

go_clo 11-22-2006 03:08 PM

Well maybe they just wanted to wait until they were married and had more money before they added extra bedrooms on. They renovated cause the house needed a spiff and Lorelais room was too small for Luke to share with her.

They probably would have added rooms later (if they had the chance)

heartღaflutter 11-22-2006 04:32 PM

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I know that this has been said before, but I also found it odd that the CS didn't have any other bedrooms. I mean, didn't LL renovate it last season (for the kids?)
I always thought they only made the bedroom bigger and remodeled the other rooms. I didn't think rooms were added, which IMO was never a smart move, just in case ;)

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And finally, new episodes of "Gilmore Girls" (households: 2.9/5, #10; adults 18-49: 1.9, #9) and "Veronica Mars" (households: 1.7/3, #11; adults 18-49: 1.2, #10) on The CW (households: 2.3/4, #5; adults 18-49: 1.6, #5) closed out the night.

RoxyBlueGirl7 11-22-2006 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by go_clo (Post 12804065)
Yes but mr. richy rich could have built a room onto the CS...Or just have been considerate enough to ask Lorelai and Rory if it was ok that Gigi had Rory's room. Its not so much the fact that he is pretty much kicking Rory out, its more the fact that he didn't ask permission. Hes going around the house replacing there stuff and adding junk that Lorelai doesn't want.

Luke never did that.
In fact the one time he added something that he thought Lorelai liked, he changed it the second Lorelai told him she hated it.

The difference is that Luke and Lorelai were only engaged and he wasn't living with her. Chris and Lorelai are now married and living together. He has to find a place for Gigi to stay, and Rory's room is apparently the only place.

I agree though -- he still should've asked, only because Lorelai and Rory have been living there for ten years. There has to be some emotional attachment to Rory's room, especially since Lorelai and Rory are so close.

GEORGEIII 11-22-2006 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ~~ CherylS ~~ (Post 12794728)
I thought this was very well written. Chris and Lorelai are coming from different places but they seem to be working it out.
I'm intrigued by this season. Where are the writers going with this storyline? While ASP always made the small things big, I think these writers are trying to show life as it is. That's what I thought was always missing with this show. I feel like now the pieces are falling together.
I liked April acting like a girl her age. I could do without the sweetie but whatever. Now I just hope we get some Luke/Anna interaction. He's proven he can be April's dad, now I need him to take her on legally.

I have identical feelings about the writing this season, 7.06 excepted.

GEORGEIII 11-22-2006 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raja (Post 12796441)
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Great smackdown of Rory by Logan. Something I'm frankly shocked in the politically correct enviroment she's in no one has said to her before. The white wasp with a trust fund who went to the most elite prep school, wears the most expensive clothes, travels to europe, attends one of the most elite colleges in the country debt free, and lives rent free in a monstrous luxurious apartment is going to lecture ANYONE attending that party? Especially after she networks through it to make her own connection.

Wonder if that online publication is also going to have an article by Jerry Seinfeld vitriolically condemning the entertainment industry for being too New York City centric?

:lmao:

Nate the Lizaphile 11-22-2006 07:45 PM

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ugh i hate KTLA basketball! :mad:
ill have to wait for episode clips:( oh please let them come fast... im dieing without my gilmore fix:lol:
did anyone else have the basketball interference on both GG and VM?

Can I ask why show the Clippers coverage on KTLA, if the Lakers call was appearing on cable over on FSN? I noticed that in the Sportscenter highlights and was thinking, 'uh, just show it on FSN West 2'? Besides, not many fans of the Clippers, so why would they care about their announcers so much to have KTLA pre-empt their show.

smeagolkitten 11-22-2006 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ~~ CherylS ~~ (Post 12800639)
But I think Chris is being realistic. He sees adult Rory. I think somewhere in Lorelai's mind she sees Rory coming home. Rory isn't coming home again other than to visit. Now is her time to grow up and start her new life as a professional or maybe a grad student. She isn't going to want SH for anything more than her 'family' is there.
I thought this was a great episode also. Maturity has finaly hit SH. People are dealing with life and living with their decisions. Luke and Lorelai are starting to get their friendship back. Lukes seeing the result of his decisions last season. He set Lorelai free and she truly moved on. May not last but I think they are both going to learn and deal with their mistakes/triumphs.
These writers have a grip on life that ASP never seemed to have. They are treating these people as flawed but living in the real world. I hope it continues.

Until Rory actually officially moves her things out of her room, it should remain her room. My 32 year old sister still has her room at home despite living in a different town with her boyfriend. My 29 year old sister however chose to fully move out as she bought a house and settled down with her fiancé. Until Rory chooses to "move out", the room is hers and Chris is REALLY crossing the line by commandeering her room and giving it away without having even asked her.

ETA: As for Rory minding... wouldn't you be hurt if your room all of a sudden had been cleared out of your stuff? Of course she's the polite girl she's always been and she keeps it to herself mostly, but deep down it's gotta hurt to be "erased" from the house you grew up in...

RoxyBlueGirl7 11-22-2006 08:38 PM

Rory may not have officially moved out, but she's been living with Logan since what -- February? Once she graduates, she's probably not going to move back. She wants to find her own place, so she'll either stay there or move in with Logan. She stayed home this past summer, but she said it was because the apartment felt big and empty after Logan left.

It probably does hurt a little, but again -- what would they do with Gigi? Make her sleep on the couch? Put her in the garage? Neither of those options is particularly appropriate for a four-year-old.

Chris still should've asked and waited a little, but it's not like there were a lot of other immediate options, and Rory is pretty much moved out.

smeagolkitten 11-22-2006 08:46 PM

Again, lets point out the money he has to actually make Gigi her own room. He could have ASKED Rory about her room and if Gigi's room wasn't done when she came back, then she could've temporarily BORROWed Rory's room.

I'm just as old as Rory, I live in a way different town, but if my parents suddenly cleared out my room, boxed up my stuff without having even asked me, I'd be pissed off. I'd feel shut out. If they had asked me, then it would've been different. Rory wasn't asked and in my opinion Chris has yet to earn the right to decide anything in Rory's life. Until he actually acts as a proper father for Rory he has about the same rights as a stranger has to decide what's to happen with her room.

RoxyBlueGirl7 11-22-2006 09:03 PM

I'm not saying I wouldn't feel the same way about my room if it were just boxed up while I'm away at school. I'm sure my brothers would be a little hurt too. Realistically though, Lorelai's house is small, and there really wasn't another immediate option for Gigi, other than the couch or garage or kitchen table. Or I guess she could share Lorelai and Chris' room, but that's probably not the ideal option.

Chris might have a lot of money, but no matter how much he pays anyone, he wouldn't be able to get the room finished in less than 24 hours. That's just not possible. And if Lorelai was getting upset about just having plasmas put into a couple of rooms, how would she feel about another room being added on, especially after spending months in a house that was being renovated?

Rory's room isn't being used. It probably wasn't going to be used by her very much. Yeah, she might be hurt, and Chris should've asked first. He didn't though, and realistically Rory is pretty much moved out. Lorelai's house will always be her home, but Rory hasn't been living there for awhile. She'll get over it, especially since she's going to be building her own life soon.

Gooey 11-23-2006 05:17 AM

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But I think Chris is being realistic. He sees adult Rory. I think somewhere in Lorelai's mind she sees Rory coming home. Rory isn't coming home again other than to visit. Now is her time to grow up and start her new life as a professional or maybe a grad student.
Therein lies the problem of LC for me. Since GG is 4 years old, Lorelai will in essence be raising her with Chris. The fact that Chris wasn't around the first 16years of Rory's life to help raise her, but now LC will raise GG together is horrendous IMO.

Chris gets what he always wanted - to be married to Lorelai.
Lorelai gets what she always wanted - the whole package.
But what does Rory get? She can't ever get the time missed with her Dad back. She won't ever feel the whole Mom/Dad/Kid thing with her parents. But she has to watch them have it with another kid? One who isn't even Lorelai's own child.

I do think Rory has come to terms with Chris never being around for her as a child, especially since Lorelai covered all the bases for her. Chris' behaviour was always excused & put down to him being who he is. But I think that to see Lorelai raise a child with Chris could be devastating for her. That isn't going to become a reality until GG is back from France, so of course shes okay with it now.


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