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~~ CherylS ~~ 11-21-2006 09:40 PM

I thought this was very well written. Chris and Lorelai are coming from different places but they seem to be working it out.
I'm intrigued by this season. Where are the writers going with this storyline? While ASP always made the small things big, I think these writers are trying to show life as it is. That's what I thought was always missing with this show. I feel like now the pieces are falling together.
I liked April acting like a girl her age. I could do without the sweetie but whatever. Now I just hope we get some Luke/Anna interaction. He's proven he can be April's dad, now I need him to take her on legally.

catkirk7 11-21-2006 09:52 PM

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Most of the Rory and Logan scenes were good, he was a bit harsh about the paper though. He knew Rory was going through something and if he wanted to prove he liked those guys, he shouldn't have spread lies about them. He was really sweet through most of it though, Logan is a sweet guy, he's really changed alot. I loved his interaction with Lorelai He reached out and touched her arm, aww that was cute!
she hurt his feelings. This is a woman he loves basically bashing his entire lifestyle and people that he sees being just like him. Even Rory admitted at the end that the article was mean and judgemental. And I don't think he was spreading lies. Just gossiping to Rory isn't the same as her putting it out maliciously in an article. I understand that she was upset so I'm not mad at her or anything but I can totally get how he would take that personally and lash out maybe a little harshly.

I agree. I totally thought that Lorelai and Logan mini-moment was sweet.

go_clo 11-21-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by catkirk7 (Post 12794882)
she hurt his feelings. This is a woman he loves basically bashing his entire lifestyle and people that he sees being just like him. Even Rory admitted at the end that the article was mean and judgemental. And I don't think he was spreading lies. Just gossiping to Rory isn't the same as her putting it out maliciously in an article. I understand that she was upset so I'm not mad at her or anything but I can totally get how he would take that personally and lash out maybe a little harshly.

I agree. I totally thought that Lorelai and Logan mini-moment was sweet.

Yea it was sweet:blush:

Well she has never really bashed his lifestyle, her grandparents come from that lifestyle so she wouldn't dare, maybe just jokingly but if she did seriously bash it, Logan should feel flattered that dispite his richness, she still loves him and has been in a relationship with him for what 3 years now?

She didn't even know she was being harsh and she explained that to him, she was trying to make it light-hearted but her anger towards her mom came in through that and he should have understood that but I understand his point of view too. I'm glad they both made up.

RoxyBlueGirl7 11-21-2006 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by go_clo (Post 12795158)
Yea it was sweet:blush:

Well she has never really bashed his lifestyle, her grandparents come from that lifestyle so she wouldn't dare, maybe just jokingly but if she did seriously bash it, Logan should feel flattered that dispite his richness, she still loves him and has been in a relationship with him for what 3 years now?

She didn't even know she was being harsh and she explained that to him, she was trying to make it light-hearted but her anger towards her mom came in through that and he should have understood that but I understand his point of view too. I'm glad they both made up.

She didn't mean to be harsh, that's for sure. She said she was just trying to be clever, and she was apologetic. You're right about that. I definitely think her being upset about Chris and Lorelai influenced her a little, as did meeting the extremes, like what's-his-face with the pool.

It's just that apparently her article was mean. Even two people who are her friends and might not be rich thought it was mean -- from the very first paragraph. If her article was that harsh, I can understand why Logan would take offense to the article and was upset about it.

And they've been dating for 1.5 years.

MickeyJr3000 11-21-2006 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by catkirk7 (Post 12794882)
I agree. I totally thought that Lorelai and Logan mini-moment was sweet.

I just had to comment on this.

Logan sorta patted her on the arm on his way out...the adorable young man has a bit of a touchy-feeling persona.

But due to that, that teeny tiny moment made me very oddly pleased. So sweet.

Lorelai/Logan fans anyone?
(Because anything's better than Dopey)
Oh right, Logan's Rory's boyfriend. Well, if Rory's up to it, they can share.

Sound of Silence 11-21-2006 10:36 PM

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Logan had no right to throw the apartment arrangment in her face. They are in a relationship, if he was going to be like that, he shouldn't of ever let her move in. He will never change.

Argh! Lorelai is so fake, fake, fake! 100%

She was a hypocrite and attacked his life, his collegues' lives, and HER own life, as well. It took her long enough to realize and ADMIT that she was wrong. Logan didn't throw ANYTHING in her face maliciously; he was merely pointing out that SHE lives the glamored life she protrayed as antagonistic in her article.

Their altercation was handled in a mature and adult manner. They made up.

"I love you so much."
"I love you, too."

These two aren't going away any time soon.

Now if only LORELAI would learn from her daughter, this L/L/C mess never would have happened.

UltimateFan 11-21-2006 10:38 PM

Overall the ep was ok. Since I'm not a fan of C/L the eps are always only ok. I just hate that Chris was willing to move Rory out of the room and think she would be so happy about the engagement. And that one minute Lorelai seems unhappy with how it was all turning out and the next is saying it's so right.

The LL interaction was weird. I mean, I like that they can be friendly and helpful toward each other even with what happened but it just seems a little odd that Lorelai didn't even seem suprised. Felt so bad for Luke seeing the ring.

Luke is such a good dad, even though for me it still is a little weird seeing him in that role.

I like how Rory and Logan can fight and make up in the same ep. It didn't need to be dragged out or anything. They are cute together.

go_clo 11-21-2006 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeyJr3000 (Post 12795441)
I just had to comment on this.

Logan sorta patted her on the arm on his way out...the adorable young man has a bit of a touchy-feeling persona.

But due to that, that teeny tiny moment made me very oddly pleased. So sweet.

Lorelai/Logan fans anyone?
(Because anything's better than Dopey)
Oh right, Logan's Rory's boyfriend. Well, if Rory's up to it, they can share.

:lmao:OMG how did I know someone was going to turn this into something dirty:lmao: Ah heck he is better with Lorelai, anyone is better then dopey. If Luke and Lorelai can never work things out *knock*knock* then let Lorelai have Logan and Rory can go after Marty:lol:

catkirk7 11-21-2006 10:55 PM

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I loved this episode, but I have one request for the writers -- please never have Luke call anyone "sweetie" again.
I couldn't agree more. I love Daddy Luke but that was just weird.

youandme1105 11-21-2006 11:14 PM

:mad: :mad: This whole episode was crap. I hate how Logan/Rory fight and then Rory comes crawling back. :rolleyes: And don't even get me started on C/L and Lorelai in general. Come on writers, I shouldn't be wanting the episodes to end, I should be wanting to them to go on and on. Give me back the Gilmore Girls that I loved! :mad:

chere44 11-21-2006 11:34 PM

Great episode. It made me laugh out loud at several points. I love Chris/Lorelai together and I enjoyed watching them figure out how they're going to fit in each other's lives. I think the clearing out of Rory's room was premature. Especially since he didn't even ask her. Chris isn't perfect, but I can forgive him since he was so eager to start the their life together. Also, I didn't really like that he assumed what Rory's reactions would be. Althougth he was technically right about Rory being happy that they got married, she was just pissed she couldn't be there. She acknowledged that L/C belong together so yay. Plus Lorelai totally had Squee! face when she said, "I'm married" at Logan's apartment. double yay.

I loved the story about how they got married. I had a much seedier Vegas-esque picture in my mind for some reason. I wish we could have seen it.

Generally, I don't like Logan. I'm not partial to Jess, Dean, Marty or anything like that, I've just known too many jerky silver spoon guys like that to really ever trust that he's a good guy. That said, I maybe sort of liked him tonight. Calling the suit, Henry and all that. Damnit the naming of inanimate objects gets me every time. He also had a point tonight. Rory was in no position to judge.

smeagolkitten 11-21-2006 11:45 PM

I haven't even seen the episode but I feel as though I have. Chris is just pissing me off more as I speak (just so you know, calling him by his name and not a nickname is awfully big of me right now).

He's erasing Rory from the house she grew up in to make room for Gigi. He's been bragging for ages about how he's so rich now. Well why doesn't he construct a new room for Gigi? Luke would do that for his kids and he doesn't even come close to having the fortune Chris does. Chris is acting selfish and immature!

I'm just waiting for Lorelai to get out of her Stephford wife shell and actually acknowledge who she is and see how she's completely f-ed up her life! 20 years in the making my ass! DR has f-ed up a show that used to be wonderful. I used to love the show for what it was, not because of a pairing. I loved the show for everything. It used to be Gilmore Girls. Now it's the "Chris and Looooor" show. The show has lost everything that I used to love so dearly. ASP, come back!!!

Raja 11-22-2006 12:14 AM

I liked the episode. Well paced. Well written. Again a lot of stuff I wish was said and done earlier.

1) Rory in an actual study group? Wow. This along with actually having new female acquaintances and dressing like an actual college student rather than an Abercombie and Fitch model? Why couldn't we have seen any of this sixth, fifth, and fourth season?

2) While I liked Logan this episode he asks whether he seems like a Staten Island type of guy. What's wrong with guys who live on Staten Island? Okay. If I had his type of money I'd probably live in Manhattan too. But still.

3) April says this is her first co-ed party. And she says her Mom is fine with it. I smell something fishy. Like she's pulling a fast one on the clueless dad. Who of course falls for it. Her "ewwwws!!!" when Luke asked about kissing were funny.

4) I guess the legality question was "answered" by them making it explicitly clear it was in France. Which means it may have been a religious marraige but certainly not legal in the civil sense. But hell this is GG. So who the hell knows since reality rarely comes into play.

5) What the hell is up with Rory and her father. They just grow more distant and distant each season. Rory doesn't want to tell her dad how she feels. Only her mother. Which of course shows she's far closer with her mother. But I can't help but feel that she walks on tip-toes around her father because she's scared he might leave her again. It's sad really. And just another indicator that what many of us hoped for in Chris coming back.. seeing him being more of a father to Rory was just a pipedream.

6) On the flipside. What is up with how Chris is viewing Rory? I don't really want to bash Chris since well he's the underdog and everyone is bashing him so it feels like I'm piling on... but let us say he isn't in the running for father of the year.

He wants to move Rory's stuff out so Gigi can move in? Rory isn't going to mind we just got married with out her? She isn't going to mind that we're moving her out of the house? I was half expecting him to suggest that Rory can stay in the garage or in a tent outside. Reminds me of the scene where Alex comes home in a Clockwork Orange to find out his room was given away to someone else by his parents.

Given we've seen Chris' affection for Rory in the past and him having contact with her rather extensively in the past I'm just perplexed. While Lorelai put her foot down I would've figured it would be a tad harder.

7) Great smackdown of Rory by Logan. Something I'm frankly shocked in the politically correct enviroment she's in no one has said to her before. The white wasp with a trust fund who went to the most elite prep school, wears the most expensive clothes, travels to europe, attends one of the most elite colleges in the country debt free, and lives rent free in a monstrous luxurious apartment is going to lecture ANYONE attending that party? Especially after she networks through it to make her own connection.

Wonder if that online publication is also going to have an article by Jerry Seinfeld vitriolically condemning the entertainment industry for being too New York City centric?

8) Media guy said the party must be different from the ones she's attended at Yale. Sadly not that much.

9) Vanessa Branch said "smashing" but not "fabulous" and never talked about getting that "fresh clean feeling."

10) I liked April going crazy when Luke said she couldn't go the party because she was sick. Actually was shocked she really was sick. Thought she was just feel ill because she was upset. And her blowing up at Luke was great. Yes she was annoying. But a girl that age is supposed to be annoying.

11) Lorelai showing up for Luke was nice. Particularly since April was her almost step-daughter. But now that she's married she can't make a habit of it. She should've learned from when she was with Luke that spending too much time with the ex is a bad idea. At least if you value the relationship you are currently in.

11) Rory decides she has to move out. Perhaps Gigi might loan Rory her closet?

zevushlvr 11-22-2006 02:04 AM

ugh i hate KTLA basketball! :mad:
ill have to wait for episode clips:( oh please let them come fast... im dieing without my gilmore fix:lol:
did anyone else have the basketball interference on both GG and VM?

heartáƒĤaflutter 11-22-2006 08:54 AM

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i hate the fact that this season is trying to erase the first six seasons of the show
I have read this multiple times now for the past few weeks, and I still am not able to understand what you guys mean with this.

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1) Rory in an actual study group? Wow. This along with actually having new female acquaintances and dressing like an actual college student rather than an Abercombie and Fitch model? Why couldn't we have seen any of this sixth, fifth, and fourth season?
Rory is exploring more of college this year then she's ever done :lol:

Okay, my thoughts on the episode... First off, I liked it, well paced, well written and good plots and interesting storylines.

There wasn't really any Paris, Lane, Sookie or anything but I can't say that I missed them throughout the episode to be honest. Though Sookie's reaction would have been nice, but I'm sure we'll get that soon ;)

Luke and April are just adorable. Like said before 'sweetie' doesn't sound right when it comes out of Luke's mouth but it's cute when you see how at ease and comfortable they are around each other.. And the whole juggling/kissing thing, so adorable and funny!
I knew that April was going to be sick, and I knew that Lorelai would go to the hospital for that but I totally felt for Luke when he saw the ring. That was really sad. It also showed discomfort to me, the scene in the hospital, but to me that seems logical given the current circumstances and how they ended their relationship. The phone call though, I expected a wondering 'Luke?' from Lorelai, which we didn't get but to me the phone call didn't feel awkward or anything. I just think Luke will continue to have that feeling to call Lorelai when something is up, something he's done in the past as well. But I think seeing as how high April's fever was, he just forgot about the circumstances and decided to do what was best for him in that situation, which was calling Lorelai in his opinion. I think at that point he just forgot how the relationship ended and called the person he knows best in Stars Hollow to call for some advice, somebody who had her own kid. It's kind of nice to see how his first thought went out to Lorelai, despite the fact that they haven't interacted for weeks. Just trying to the upside of all this, this in combination with the last heartbreaking last scene with Luke (who watched that movie), is just giving me so much hope for LL. I mean that movie is about marrying the wrong guy and how this guy stops her. I mean it's their story, despite the fact that Lorelai is already married (Thank you for not changing it to Hayden btw!) but I mean MARRIED WRONG GUY, I don't think we can get a bigger anvil or hint for what's coming up!

Lorelai/Chris, they're still cute but they seemed off this episode, most likely I think because Lorelai isn't quite happy with the changes that her marriage caused. First off Rory isn't happy that she isn't included on the wedding, I didn't really expect a whole 'you shouldn't have married dad but Luke' kind of conversation since we are still talking about Rory's dad. I think like said in the episode, every kids wants their parents to be happy, and married if it lets them. I'm glad though that Rory avoided her mother for some time, which in the end caused Lorelai to head to Logan and Rory's apartment for the first time.
And all the changes in the house, Chris really wants to change a lot, something with a waterfall and big TV's all around? I get that Chris has to change as well by moving to SH, but he wants to remodel the house that Lorelai remodeled with Lorelai? NO! I'm glad Lorelai wasn't too happy with that either and that she waited until after she talked with Rory about it until she changed the stuff in Rory's room. It should have been something that Chris should have done as well.
I'm really trying to be as positive as I can about Chris, but it all builds up to me. IMO it seems to me that he's building his life more around Lorelai and Gigi, but not around Rory, which is a shame. Doesn't really seem that Rory is that comfortable around her father as well since she couldn't tell him that she wasn't happy about the marriage straight to his face, because he had to hear about it from Lorelai.

I'm still not happy that Rory is planning on moving out, but I'm glad that it wasn't in the way that I imagined it to be, that she wanted to move out because Logan kicked her out, to say it like that. I'm glad she's thinking about moving out because she feels like she has to, not because someone made her. Rory and Logan's reunion scene was really cute... I loved it that once again he surprised her Lots of kissing too in the ep btw! I loved Logan's reaction to the article and I'm glad that his reaction wasn't overreacted, perhaps the last few words a bit too harsh but I'm glad that Olivia and Lucy agree that it was a mean article.
I also loved the whole thing about Henry, so cute that they named it.. But I also loved that Logan gave Rory the opportunity to talk about the marriage during the party and that Logan knew of Paris and that her parents went there.. Their communication skills keep on getting better :thumbs_up:

So in the end a good episode IMO, I don't really have that much complaints, and none about the writing, dialogue and all of that. I really liked it!! :)


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