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Old 01-27-2021, 12:29 PM
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I hope so. I need them to fix this.
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Old 01-30-2021, 02:53 AM
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Me too. Because of his illness, Liz got to his money and she played him into believing that Marvin had turned on Red. If he wouldn't have been sick this would have never happened.
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Old 01-30-2021, 08:17 AM
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In my mind this is going to have to be Marvin snd red tricking Liz. Because no way would red fall for that. It’s sloppy writing. And Dembe was right there to figure it out too.

I can’t deal with this.
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:51 AM
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I really hope it is that. I hope this is Red and Marvin tricking Liz cause I don't want Liz to have Red's money and I don't want her to be smarter than Red.
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Old 01-31-2021, 09:42 AM
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Honestly, if they want to make me believe that this slip has anything to do with Red's disease, they have to play it a lot better than that... I don't believe it at all. It's just been bad writing for me, sorry. They are ruining him for the sake of her and that is disgusting.

Like Marilyn said, Dembe was there and he should have known better. It's not the disease, it's the writing, nothing else.
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Old 02-01-2021, 08:02 AM
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Honestly, if they want to make me believe that this slip has anything to do with Red's disease, they have to play it a lot better than that... I don't believe it at all. It's just been bad writing for me, sorry. They are ruining him for the sake of her and that is disgusting.

Like Marilyn said, Dembe was there and he should have known better. It's not the disease, it's the writing, nothing else.
They should have had her do something more sneaky than that. I mean red knew she was trying to flip his people so why wouldn’t he and Marvin just set skip up to run after her. That’s a totally red thing to do.

But this, no way. Even when she was trying to get the bones and acted like she was kidnapped, I could see red struggling to save her. That made sense. This does not.
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Old 02-01-2021, 10:50 AM
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Yeah it could also just be bad writing. But then it is very bad writing.. very bad.
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Old 02-02-2021, 12:13 AM
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It is bad writing... Not could be It simply makes no sense.

Exactly, Red used to be that sneaky and he wants to get her and he would if he would really be himself. But because of that writing, he isn't.
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Old 02-02-2021, 09:48 AM
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It is bad writing... Not could be It simply makes no sense.

Exactly, Red used to be that sneaky and he wants to get her and he would if he would really be himself. But because of that writing, he isn't.
True. It IS bad writing. No other explanation
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Old 02-02-2021, 11:34 PM
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I thought it frightening on how much medication he had to take in the beginning... Did you see all the bottles.
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Old 02-03-2021, 07:51 AM
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Yes. It’s scary. It’s a ton of medicine
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Old 02-03-2021, 10:59 AM
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He has so many medicine. It drives me crazy that we don't know what he is suffering from.
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Old 02-04-2021, 12:49 AM
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It must be something lung related at least... He was coughing up blood.
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It must be something lung related at least... He was coughing up blood.
I still think kaplans poison triggered it or made it worse.
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Old 02-04-2021, 11:20 PM
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Hm, I have no idea. Maybe it already was bad by then...
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