Miranda

7 days from now we will know what Red is going to do with Mr. Kaplan!

You think Liz will blame Mr. Kaplan?

Lauren Helen Graham

I'm sure he won't kill her right away... But I'm curious to hear a talk. I want to hear more, I don't want them to go on as if nothing has happened, there must be consequences, maybe depending on what happens with Liz.

No, I don't think so. She won't blame her. She would blame Red, yeah, although he had nothing to do with it *me being a bit sarcastic here*

Fangirl49

Are you softening?????? No don't leave me on the dark side alone.

There shall be consequences although if he lets her live and she loses his faith, trust and friendship that could be worse than death.

Miranda

Oh there definitly will be consequences. It's not possible that there won't be and we know that Red and Mr. Kaplan are definitly going to have a talk!

I am afraid that Liz will blame Mr. Kaplan this time as well and Red of course cause yeah like you said Kris, she will blames Red for everything.

Fangirl49

She does blame Red for everything. But I actually could see Kaplan apologize to Liz because the plan didn't work out

Lauren Helen Graham

Marilyn, don't worry, I'm not softening. But by all the stuff we got so far I'm sure he won't kill her right away. I really can see Red waiting the outcome of Liz being taken and if they'll get her and Agnes back and how fast and in which condition. That's Red and Mr. Kaplan... He loves her, he trusted her. She was the person that was closest to him. It can't be easy for him. I for myself though want her to be dead...

And did you see this one promo (from GlobalTV I think) where she tells him that something has to change, that he has to leave? She doesn't stop!

Miranda, you think that Liz is going to blame Mr. Kaplan? Really?

Miranda

I have a feeling we are going to see Mr. Kaplan a lot this season. Maybe even more than in all 3 seasons combined. I am sure it's going to be a very interesting journey.

I don't understand that she dares to tell Red that he has to leave her. So he is good enough to save her but than he needs to back off. That doesn't make sense.

Yes that's the feeling that I have Kris. She has a tendency of always blaming somebody else so why not Mr. Kaplan.

Lauren Helen Graham

Yes, in the beginning we'll see her a lot, I'm convinced about that as well... Not sure for how long though.

And it's really so OOC for her if you ask me... I'm wondering what she is thinking. How could somebody demand something like that from Red? First of all saving her and then back off?

Yeah, that's true about Liz always needing anybody to blame it on. Just not her or Tom.

Fangirl49

If she tells him that, then she really doesn't care about him at all. Although I think he will back off without anyone telling him anything. I think the hurt he will feel will demand it. Kaplan really doesn't need to continue advising him like that if she wants to live.

Miranda

I think that Red will have made up his mind in the first episode what he is going to do with Mr. Kaplan but I think he needs her help in the beginning so he is not going to kill her right away.

I do think that Mr. Kaplan does care about Red a lot. I saw that in the episode where he got shot and she didn't want to leave his side. That's why I can't understand what she did.

Fangirl49

Yeah I think she cares for him too. She just really messed up.

He already has so few people he can trust. He has been betrayed by so many persons in his organization. No wonder he is a loner who can't share his plans with anyone. Heck he even asks Liz not to call Ressler or Tom and she does both. She won't listen to him either. Now he has been betrayed by them all.

Miranda

And that is why loyalty is so important to him. If he can't trust his own people, who can he trust?

Lauren Helen Graham

But she does... We saw this in one of the promos And when I saw this my dislike for her grew again. It's as if picking in this wound of betrayal again and again. I still am wondering what made her change so drastically. What happened that made her think that Red brought all this horror into her life?

And yes, I agree... Mr. Kaplan cares so much for Red and still she committed this betrayal. I don't understand it still.

There are not many people left he can trust now. Apparently not her.

Fangirl49

Even listening to the Behind the Blacklist , it's like the writers actually continue this idea that this is Red's fault because he keeps doing things to cause LizS distrust, and I just don't see it at all. Not with Liz and not with Kaplan. Especially Kaplan because she knows Red and I kind of think she may know the history with Liz

Miranda

I am sure that Kaplan knows about Red's history with Liz and what they are too each other. I think she knows almost all there is to Red. She once told him: "You are not going to lose her." and now she contributed to the fact that he did lose her.