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And besides de Medicis are closer to the Vatican than the Valois line. Heck, I kinda would have wanted Catherine with all the de Medicis money stir a revolution against Henry if Henry succumbs to this plot. Heck, even connive with England to usurp Henry and then they'll have no choice but to have Francis marry whoever Mary Tudor's heir is. You know for the sake of actually giving France a way to save face from their defeat. Also Marie de Guise - Stuart is a battle-harden monarch. She's battling left and right, up and down, bastards and non-bastards against her child Mary. She knows betrayal and backstabbing and blackmailing because that's how Scotland's enemies play the game. And she has to play the game (a lesson also taught by Catherine) and does this to ensure what's right for Scotland and for her daughter. It was foolish to think of this plot. A very bad conceive plot. Like a band-aid used to cover a big festering infected wound. And of course, its because of this plot, we have Future Max! |
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I love the discussion on this thread, but I can't add much, you already said everything
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The blank page scene was such a wonderful moment Mary and Catherine being in the same team again and Cat helping Mary realize what was what she really wanted
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She needs the best fix (that doesn't involve murder YET) she has for this situation especially rumors that Mary doesn't care about her reputation being soiled in FRANCE, right? But this whole thing does affect a LOT of issues, 1) another way to jeopardize Mary's rule in Scotland, 2) it will also tarnish the image of Mary with England as well as with Mary Tudor and it will go on and on and on. Marie is also not Catherine nor she's part of the French Court. From the start, when Marie came into the court, she was awkward, inelegant, kinda like brusque walking instead of the refinery Catherine exudes. It was to show the differences of the French court and the Scottish court. It was to show how hard Marie is in a different game than what is playing at the French court, that its harder and dirtier in Scotland and she can't afford to be a dainty king, to be sweet, to be a nurturer that Catherine is to her children. Even if she really wants to, it sometimes comes off as awkward and brusque. And I love Catherine and Marie both. Two different mothers, different approaches but they did get the job done. Also notice the difference: Francis was in awe of Marie, he took her advise about Mary and Bash, while he was not so inclined to believe his mother when she said Mary still loves him. Contrast to Mary, who wouldn't do what her mother tells her or believes in her because she really thinks she was saving Francis from death. It took Catherine's act of sacrifice, for her to believe that the prophecy is gone and with the blank paper, she has the power to choose who she would marry. I mean, most of the time, reignwriters and directors (maybe the editors) do get A+ in their writing. |
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