Grace52373

You don't know that, and think back to Rum's discussion with Henry over his being a seer. Also, Henry is his grandson, and Belle is there to keep him on track. I don't think he will harm Henry. He said that as the DO, and didn't know Henry, or have Belle's love. None of us should jump to conclusions.

Wingster

Rumple may be weary of Henry from here out..but he won't actually kill him
Seer's warning was strangely phrased...downfall could mean numerous things

Milah...yeesh..what Rumple did was NOT cowardice

also...I'm thinking the Blue Fairy is involved somehow...how else would August know?

"I spent my entire life running away from that man"
...Peter Pan?

ring of fire

Bae travelled through space/time. Rumpel and the show runners confirmed this. He knows Hook because he saw him with his mother when he was a child.

Neal says Hook should be like hundreds of years old by now.

jbshmdfb

I know that, maybe you meant to quote the person after me? Cause all I was saying was what the difference was from one promo to the other.

ring of fire

Now I understand what you meant. Sorry

simply because

Wait. Do you mean that you think Neal/Baelfire is Peter Pan?

Wingster

It's a thought. Probably not a likely thing though

jbshmdfb

I thought he was talking about himself (Neal) maybe my wording was wrong earlier but Neal seemed to be talking about himself.

Rhonwen

Did Milah say at the beginning of the episode that she didn't want Rumple to go to war?

Kelaine

What Rumple said 300 years ago and what he'll do now--especially when he knows Henry is his grandson--are two very different things. Besides, right now, Bae might forgive him. Knock off Henry, no forgiving. Ever.

Also, the seer's prophecy was that Henry would be his undoing. Undoing is about a thousand times more vague and open to alternate meanings than her first prophecy, which seemed pretty direct.

But, it seems to be a characteristic of Dark Magic types to eventually prefer death to living with the burden of their powers and to create situations where that will happen.

simply because

Interesting. If it does happen that would be a pretty intense web the writers have woven.

Neal did say he spent more years than Gold could count seeing his face at night. And given that time stopped in Storybrooke. Even if he did travel through space and time, Neal would still have had to been in a place where he himself didn't age, like Neverland, in order to have achieved that.

CincyLady

Canadian Promo ...

OUAT "The Queen is Dead" CTV Promo - YouTube

ring of fire

But Neverland has magic. Bae went to a land without magic.

Candygirl9890

I doubt Gold will harm Henry. Prophecies are a tricky thing. They don't always mean what you think they do. Henry being Rumpel's "undoing" could easily mean that Henry will help Rumpel give up magic.

CincyLady

Or so the Blue Fairy told him he would go to ... but she like the Seer might of ommited things ... and who's to say that Hook hasn't been in the supposed land without magic before.

Supposed ... because what if magic is really everywhere ... but because of non belief (like in Frankenstine's world) it's atrophied and is very weak and unpredictable?

Or it could mean ... that now knowing that Henry is his grandson, Rumple who might not of done so before, will sacrifice himself for Henry ... and thus Henry will be Rumples undoing.