amoRBD

I know I'm so over this triangle that shouldn't have existed in the first place considering one side of the triangle was already ENGAGED to someone else. I'm more than sure that WB's portrayal has pretty much doomed whatever LG's plans were for ZG and rather than embrace it and go with the natural progression that people enjoy because let's be honest even with the whole cheating thing wade is more likable than zoe at this point and he kinda always has been. I can only speak for myself but i know I'm not the only one who has tolerated zoe for the sake that wade loves her. So again, LG just needs to stop trying to make zg happen

olimix57

"Triangles never work. They ruin characters, ships, and shows."

Sex and the City is a great example of a good triangle, even if we hated Carrie's actions, we never hated her. Her character never got ruined.
Same with Felicity, she cheated on Ben with Noel but her character wasn't ruined.
For a triangle to be good, you have to be able to understand both couples, even if you are firmly in one camp.

hopeless romantic

The way I see the writing for ZG is that the problem, vis a vis ZW is tone.

ZW have not only one-and-done love on Wade's side but exciting passion, tenderness, and a feeling of something so extraordinarily intimate that I sometimes blush when I'm alone watching them together because it feels like I'm watching real people kiss and make love (although I never feel like I'm watching anything remotely pornographic).

ZG seem to have a relationship that is based around comfort and familiarity, and a certain absurd level of infatuation (they both like NY, newspapers, sushi, and ducks).

If the other leg of the triangle from George had been similarly superficial and light in terms of tone (say, like what Zoe had with Jonah), then I could see the triangle being banal but not insulting. It's just that when you compare 24-carat gold to fool's gold, the differences become glaring and unbearable.

TMM

Ack, I can't keep up. LOL

I agree that triangles can and have worked. Sometimes, like the ones Tracie listed, you can even like both sides (but Tracie - noooo Will&Alicia all the way ). Other times, you definitely prefer a side, but you can understand the other side, even if you hate it. With this, I can't even call it a triangle, because there is nothing real there and the writing isn't good. I don't understand, outside of just being a fan of the actor. I've yet to hear a reason to like ducks that makes any sense to me. And, I agree, they aren't even writing for them now.

Also, in order to try to make them work, they have to make up a bunch of contrived stuff that actually affects the entire show (see: the last 4 episodes).

BlueDog9

I agree with Tracie, Lisa, and Vero.

I've been sick of the "triangle" since the very beginning.

CityGal

So well said.

olimix57

This is exactly right with Z/G, that comfort and familiarity. George was good for Zoe in the beginning, he helped make the transition from living in the big city to BB much easier.
She arrived to BB where it was so different from everything she had ever known and George was just there to make it easier for her.
And that's what I'd like to see in season 3, Zoe finally realizing that George's purpose isn't to be her bf, he already served his purpose, which was to help her get acquainted to BB.

lemers718

Well put. It is amazing how relatable these two are. How you actually can feel their feelings. Their passion and pain. Very rarely do two actors click with such explodable chemistry. After giving the audience that you want us to except ducks and newspapers.

BlueDog9

In my experience, triangles never work and always ruin things.

Agree.

Tracie76

For both sides to work you have to understand why the person in the middle is legitimately torn between the two options. And it has to be in a way that doesn't make him/her look bad. So there has to be a reason why he/she may be with one, but still have feelings for the other but can't be with that person. Here we don't have that. Zoe came to town. Fell for George who was engaged. I found Lemon at the center of a triangle more believable last season than Zoe is this season. I understood why Lemon would be torn between George and Lavon. I also understood why she chose George over Lavon, but yet may still have feelings for Lavon. With Zoe there isn't that. She had her chance to be with George earlier this season. She put him off for silly reasons while getting closer to Wade and developing feelings for him. So now I have no reason to believe that she is interested in George. There wasn't a legitimate reason other than her own stupidity that kept them apart.

BlueDog9

Tracie.

TMM

ITA Tracie. Perfectly stated. That's precisely why I don't understand them. Also, Zoe only seems to want George when she can't have him. The minute she has a chance when both are free, she finds excuses not to be with him. Nothing about the writing for them says "real" to me.

BlueDog9

I've never understood why Zoe likes George. (Sometimes I wonder why Wade likes Zoe.)

There's nothing "real" about ducks, newspapers, NY. Real is fighting, crying, being happy just playing video games because of the person you're playing with.

Tracie76

I can get why Zoe liked George initially. Not this deep connection she claims it is. He was a nice guy who was nice to her when she was new to town. Everyone else was giving her a hard time. So I can get that. And yet that isn't the foundation of anything deep or love. It may be the start of something, but that is it. A day after meeting him she found out he was engaged. So she shouldn't have been thinking of him like that after she found out he wasn't available. So any hurt that Zoe suffered I can't really feel bad for her. She knew he was engaged.

And by now I definitely can't believe it because she has repeatedly chosen to not be with him. In 2x05 she actually told him to go and fall for someone else. And then she went back to Wade who she told George she had feelings for. At that time she was aware that things were getting more serious with Wade. So she couldn't have had deep feelings for George. She never would have told him to go off and be with someone else and then continued to be with Wade knowing that she was starting to fall for him. That just isn't logical. No one who thinks they are in love with another person sends them off to fall for someone else while they themselves continue to be involved with someone they are falling for. If you think you love someone, you want to be with them if you can. The only time you shouldn't is if there are legitimate reasons for you to not be together. And sorry aligning stars is not a valid reason. It is stupid.

Cadenf

I understand why she liked him. He reminded her of home when she was someplace new. And I know in some ways misses NY. But it is a fantasy and now especially she wishes for something safe.