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Old 03-21-2012, 06:36 AM
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Maybe what I thought about can give some things to discuss and it will help kill this thread

I suspect it before but now we know what Toby's agenda was (even if we don't know the details) some scenes we saw since he came back in 2x23 (2x22 if we count the bike scene in the street) have more than we think at the time ...

-1st : the bike scene in 2x22 : It seems like he drove close enough to be seen by Spencer ... because for what other reason would he come just there stop for few seconds and then drove back from where he came from ...

-2nd : the hallway scene in 2x23 : the minute he saw Spencer and she started to talk to him he crossed his arms on his chest like if he didn't want to be tempted hugging her or something like that and while he talked to her coldly we can see on his face the efforts he had to do for being that cold with her ...

-3rd : the scene at the hospital with him, Jenna and Wren in 2x23 : his looks to Wren and the way he talked to him it's like if he knew what Wren was up too concerning Spencer ... I mean that Wren was going after her not that Spencer wanted to be with him ...

4th : the scene in which he asks Spencer if she's alright in 2x23 at the hospital, not only because she was injured of course ... his concern for her is far more here and he can't help asking ...
With that one could also fit the scenes of looks between Spencer and Toby in both 2x23 (in the street at the beginning of the episode) and in 2x24 when Jenna is about to do her "forgiveness" speech to the girls at school ...

5th : the scene in the finale when Spencer comes to see him at Jason's house and he is still cold to her ... the way at the end he wanted to say or do something when Spencer is already gone like if for him she doesn't have anything to be forgiven for in his eyes because I think he already knows at this point what has to be known even maybe what concerns Wren (maybe not in the details but the big picture of him pirsuing Spencer especially when she's vulnerable) ... don't know if it's clear ...

6th : the reunion scene if that scene shows us something it's how epic and kikackassing a kiss can be between two characters who love each other and what this scene shows us too it's how Toby is able to take charges of thing by the way he grabbed Spencer to kiss her but also by what all more this reunion means ... Toby was working on helping Spencer and he succeeded !
Like MK said in her tweet few weeks ago ... as for Spencer and Toby true love conquers all !!!


And I think this quote from Ask ausiello hasn't been posted yet ... :
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Question: How did Toby know how to contact Dr. Sullivan in the finale of Pretty Little Liars? If she was that easy to locate, wouldn’t the girls have found her already? —Lori
Ausiello: We put your burning question in front of exec producer Oliver Goldstick, who explains, “Toby hiding his valiant effort to protect Spencer was very connected to Jenna because he really was hoping that if she was indeed treacherous, he could find something from the inside. So, that’s what that was about. All of the loved ones of the PLLs were aware of Dr. Sullivan, and her sudden disappearance from Rosewood would have sparked interest and curiosity among them. Again, Toby had been clued in that someone was torturing the girls, so he made the connection that that person could have been holding Dr. Sullivan at bay. I can’t explain all of that to you now — it will certainly unfold — but he knew there was a time she could come back and confirm who indeed was tormenting the girls. Obviously, Mona was seeing Dr. Sullivan
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:44 AM
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A lot to discuss there

1. With the bike scene, I'd like to believe that the reason he drove close enough to be seen and stopped wasn't about her seeing him, but him seeing her. I want to believe that he was reassuring himself that she was okay.

2. Agree with the arm crossing. He did it to restrain himself from reaching out for her, which would have made it obvious that he was pretending not to love her.

3. Didn't Jenna make a comment about a lie (can't be sure I heard it right) after Toby confirmed that it was Wren that had been talking to them. If she did, it kind of suggests that they already knew the Wren thing was a lie, but he probably would have been concerned about Wren persuing Spencer when she was vulnerable.

4. He asked if she was okay because, once again, he needed to be sure himself, and he was more concerned about her than the risk of anyone working out what he didn't want them to yet.


I'm not sure that he brought the forgiveness speech. He seemed hesitant to leave Jenna alone with them.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:48 AM
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How amazing was this scene? I was crying how beautiful it was.
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Old 03-21-2012, 06:56 AM
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Oh no I don't think Toby buy the Jenna forgiveness thing I just mentioned that regarding the way he looks to Spencer and viceversa ... which is one more detail who shows how much hard it was for him pretending he doesn't love her anymore ...

Yes the bike scene could be there for both to see each other in fact ...

Very good video Jessica ... did you make it ? Love the song on it !
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The video is incredible
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:07 AM
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No, I didn't but I agree, it is good
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Great vid! I love that song ♥

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The quote

It should be the next thread title
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:51 AM
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Let's play ABC to kill this thread! I never played but it could be fun

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