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Old 03-05-2017, 01:46 AM
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Awesome, Laura. Chai seems like a sweetheart.
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Old 03-05-2017, 03:17 AM
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Wow, Laura, that is so awesome
Chai really seems like a nice guy

I understand Ilian's motivations. From his perspective, blowing up alpha station made perfect sense I still love this character and I'm curious to see where this will go. How will everyone see him and treat him in the aftermath?

Completely agree with everyone on Riley. Blegh
Still not liking this character one bit and would rather have seen his screentime go to other characters. I do think though that Riley's scenes were a plot device to show us where Bellamy's at in terms of emotional development, nothing more. (And to add some tension of course )
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Old 03-05-2017, 08:00 AM
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I do think though that Riley's scenes were a plot device to show us where Bellamy's at in terms of emotional development, nothing more. (And to add some tension of course )
I totally feel that as well, Kate.
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Old 03-05-2017, 05:19 PM
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I'm glad we all understand why Riley is there at least, but it doesn't make him any less annoying
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Old 03-05-2017, 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I'm going to need him to not appear again. Or less of him, at least.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:33 AM
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I think everybody agrees on Riley, unusual for this fandom.

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I do think though that Riley's scenes were a plot device to show us where Bellamy's at in terms of emotional development, nothing more. (And to add some tension of course )
Would have made more sense if it was a person we already know though, it's why I think it's true he got the arc Bryan was supposed to get if the actor wasn't a regular on another show.

As for Ilian, I'm indifferent, I'll have to wait and see until I judge whether I like him or not. But I definitely get why he wanted to blow up the ship, in his mind the Sky people and their technology are the reason why his family died. He has no reason to trust them and their solutions which involve technology.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:23 AM
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But I definitely get why he wanted to blow up the ship, in his mind the Sky people and their technology are the reason why his family died. He has no reason to trust them and their solutions which involve technology.
Agreed ... however, Kenni did make a good point in the episode discussion thread that this is probably also true of the other Grounders since they were also chipped and presumably some were also forced to kill their loved ones and yet, they didn't clamour to destroy the technology around them. Illian destroyed both the Flame (or so he thought) and also the entire Arkadia.

Again, though ... this was a definite plot device to ensure that the Ark was destroyed and that Arkers/Grounders are finally forced to worked together so I can't really hold it against the character himself.
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:35 AM
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But the fact that Ilian (and a group of others) does want to destroy all tech, does that make him less understanding? Or does that make the rest more understanding?

I still get it, but hey, I'm usually pro-grounder anyway (not cause I like all of 'em, but because I can relate to their POV)
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Old 03-06-2017, 04:42 AM
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But the fact that Ilian (and a group of others) does want to destroy all tech, does that make him less understanding? Or does that make the rest more understanding?
Fair point. The rest are a bit TOO understanding, IMO. Or maybe they're angry but are too afraid to do anything about it.

I have to say, I'm definitely the opposite ... I usually don't see it from their POV too much, but it's not right as well. They're not perfect, but neither are Arkers. And both sides have done horrific things in the name of their people.
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:40 AM
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But the fact that Ilian (and a group of others) does want to destroy all tech, does that make him less understanding? Or does that make the rest more understanding?

I still get it, but hey, I'm usually pro-grounder anyway (not cause I like all of 'em, but because I can relate to their POV)
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Old 03-06-2017, 09:53 AM
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Hm, I don't think I'm on anyone's side really.
I do see both points of view.

I guess my likes and dislikes are totally subjective and depend on whether I like the character/actor
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Old 03-06-2017, 10:10 AM
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I usually don't see it from their POV too much, but it's not right as well. They're not perfect, but neither are Arkers. And both sides have done horrific things in the name of their people
Same here, I have to agree with you. The thing is I really felt for Ilian, I felt his pain and understood why he hated the Arkers/tech so much. But I truly think that burning down the Ark was just unacceptable. He said he didn't want anyone to die, but how did he know for sure there weren't any other innocent people inside? He completely destroyed their home....as much I felt sorry for what happened to him I don't think I can truly like him completely after what he did (well at least that's how I feel at the moment) I'm still interested to his interaction with the others and his storyline.

Chai seems like such a sweetheart!
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Old 03-06-2017, 11:02 AM
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I hope that people change their minds for Ilian, for Murphy people did not like it because
He hanged Bellamy
- shot on Raven
- income with grounders virus ....
And now much like Murphy

But as Ilian is not a skaikru, ilian is more, quickly judged ...
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Old 03-06-2017, 01:00 PM
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^See that's the thing about this show, you're absolutely right
All about perspective and how we feel inclined towards one group/ certain characters based on what we see.
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Old 03-07-2017, 07:53 AM
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Absolutely Laura and Rose
I never understood why Murphy who did all these horrible things was so universally loved, yet others get hate for way less

At least everyone seems to unanimously hate Riley
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