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I liked Ilian, too, Taryn.

destroyer of worlds

I'm also really baffled about some fans who only seem to complain and moan about the show, and are determined to bring everyone down with them. If I don't enjoy the show anymore, I just stop watching. Period.

Wow, those Twitter comments on that innocent Echo/Emori hug is insane. Unfortunately that is the "price" of fandom, you will always get these extreme fans who are determined to make sure that everyone knows how they feel about a characters/storyline. Especially with a teen-oriented show like this. It's just a mob mentality and unfortunately tends to reflect badly on certain parts of the fandom.

I'd appreciate it though, if there was less self-policing in this thread from now on. If you feel like someone is bashing a character, please go to either me or Lisa. We've privately sent messages to posters where we feel like the bashing gets out of line especially when it's something like "so-and-so deserves to die" or "I wouldn't care if so-and-so died" (I know that we've not done the best in the past with more disliked characters such as Jaha and even Finn but we're trying to do better now), because it's just not a pleasant thing to read about. Everyone has fans, even if you may not understand why those characters are actually liked. I do however agree that constant comments about not liking characters without elaborating on why you dislike them do not contribute much to the conversation.

There's no hard and fast rule to say that if you say you don't like a character 2/3 times, it's fine and if you say it ten times, it's bashing etc. As long as it doesn't steer into comments which center around the actor/actress or using derogatory language to refer to the character, it doesn't cross a line for me.

This. I've said it before but if there ever was a season which would have benefited greatly from a 16 episode run, it's season 5. I didn't feel this for the previous seasons but honestly, I feel like both the overall arc AND the character developments in general feel rushed/underdeveloped this season. It's still a great show but yes, that is my gripe this season.

I remember that scene but it's very small action, it still doesn't give me an indication of leadership qualities. And using your example, Raven/Murphy did take the lead there but it never seemed like they were bossy/dismissive, which I felt like Echo was in 5X11.

I'm really glad that you feel that way. We have a lot of intelligent posters and discussions here, and that has only grown in the past 2 years or so. Very grateful to have a place like this to discuss in such an in-depth and thought provoking way, nothing worse than an entirely negative platform for the show or one where everyone agrees with everyone else 24/7.

I can agree with that, I don't see it as Echo changing as much as her allegiances shifting from protecting her people and ensuring their survival to now focusing on ensuring that Spacekru stays alive and well.

Fuzzy Dunlop

I often wonder how different things would be if this show had gotten picked up by a channel like SyFy instead of the CW. I feel like just putting in the context of shows like TVD and Gossip Girl brings in a younger audience that are looking for certain things. But The 100 really isn't about those things. Like it's not really a teen-oriented show. It's a show about very adult themes on a teen-oriented network. So there's this gap in expectations between the kind of show that Jason and the writers are trying to make, and the kind of show that a lot of these fans want it to be. And then both sides get frustrated with each other and you see these insane things happen on twitter.

destroyer of worlds

I still feel like it's a teen-oriented show just because of the network but yeah, the audience clearly consists of a more mature group of fans, which is on brand with the darker themes on the show since that tends to resonate with more adult fans rather than the younger ones.

I would have loved that TBH, I feel like this is a show which can push the envelope even further if it was on a cable/more adult oriented network. It is impressive what The CW has been able to get away with showing on this show though, I have to say.

And that makes sense, I feel like it's all about the ships for some people which is fine ... because people watch shows for different reasons. But then you get this disconnect between expectation and reality because the show will never have focus on that as a central theme unlike those shows you just mentioned. And then that tends to frustrate certain fans who want to see more of that.

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