Si_Crazy

TPTB is really in love with Haylijah, so yeah, I think they will keep it as the ship of the show for a long time

That's why the argument/speculation that if anyone is going to die it's her, since the writers didn't even bother to work on her character so far.

She trusted him and he was a jerk.
To me, that only proves that Elijah is an hypocrite. Writing for Elijah in TO is ruining the character for me

Yeah, to me the backdoor pilot (including the Director's cut) and the pilot made me ship them. I really thought that Elijah was the one that would understand her reasons, and turns out that when he found out all about the Harvest he was the one that tagged her as the enemy

That's more a ritual that the witches have than actually passing over to the other side. It's like the rituals people have in different religions. The NOLA witches use ancestral magic so it's probably only something related to that like Lempicka said.

Speaking of which, I LOVE the gifset

Lempicka

That's what I'm afraid of. And there is no way I'm gonna wait 3 or 4 years for them to happen.

I hope that they'll focus on a "Cami/Klaus/Hayley" triangle rather than " Elijah/Hayley/Klaus" triangle.

Si_Crazy

I hope they stay away from any kind of triangle... it's pathetic. If that becomes the focus of the show, I'll be leaving without thinking twice

bonnie51

I can handle well done triangles... but with JP I don't know if I have the faith that it would be well done.

That being said, it would be a "tiny" change if it were two girls fighting over a brother instead of two brothers fighting over a girl.

Si_Crazy

I can't stand triangles.... overused and just annoying for me.

bonnie51

they are overused... impossible to argue that.

and most are annoying because IMO they are so poorly done and or just used again and again.

Si_Crazy

^ Exactly!!! Also, it creates an imagine for the person that can't decide what she/he wants... like always giving hope to both parts and that just makes me start hating the character

I want Elijah to start getting sort of intrigued/fascinated by Sophie, and then maybe something will happen, but only after he is over his teenager crush on Hayley

bonnie51

I hate flitting back and forth... and if they have both parties trying to out do the other one to gain the most effection, etc. bleh.

they can be alright but it takes a decently high form of writing, IMO.




I'd like to see that happen with Sophie as well...


not sure between this one and my other ship if either have more than a snowball's chance in hell but at least on this one my hope is growing... or, at least not shrinking. having a hard time finding the words

Si_Crazy

^ exactly.... when it comes to triangle
I can't think of one triangle that was good written... maybe in the beginning but pretty sure that all of them got stretched out and ended up being pathetic

I'm a point with Sophie that any development will be accepted by me.... but, I do think that it would be awesome for the show to have her have a connection (personal) with one of the Originals (and when I say that I do mean one of the Mikaelsons, I really don't want her to be yet another person on the show in charge of protecting Hayley)

I got what you mean.... I actually think that when it comes to Klayley you shouldn't loose hope yet.... it's still in the beginning and as times passes by and the fandom don't react as bad as initially happened, there is a chance. ATM the writers are stepping on thin ice because the backlash towards the couple was HUGE and it wasn't just the Klaroline shippers as most people say. But now I think there's still hope for you guys.
As for Elijah/Sophie, at first I thought there would be something between them, even if it was just subtle... but then I was hit out of nowhere by haylijah and I just don't understand it. Now I'm not having much hopes for them... I think this will be like Bamon the couple that could've been AMAZING, but just got screwed over by the writers

bonnie51

Its been a while since there has been a good one. But I think it can be done... you just have to have more of set guide / vision than I think these guys have. I think a better done love triangle might show maybe more of why someone is drawn to someone else rather than just having them make batty eyes at everyone who is nice to them or is a jerk to them and they want that person to like them, etc. And then don't have em flit back and forth... you can have someone trying to decide between two people without having to be in a relationship with one of them while contemplating a relationship with the other, etc.

Same here.



I don't know bout the hope. Have to wait and see but the hope meter is at 1%. And I'm mostly okay with that. The bigger thing, or at least the thing that bugs me the most about them is that they're going to have a frigging kid sometime in the near future and by all accounts, they don't even interact. And it doesn't even seem like its a situation where the show wants you to believe that they interact off screen, like they do sometimes with characters.

Yeah, the fallback was intense... and kind of made me chuckle. I hate Cami but not that much . Intense hatred to the point that it got to of a fictional character will never make sense to me


As for E/S... I agree, I thought at first there might be something but then that changed. I have to say, in some ways, Elijah's kind of creeped me out with his intense need for this baby to bring the family together.


Well, we're going to have to part ways about Bamon... never hopped on that train, sorry.

Si_Crazy

Exactly!! But shows never work on the character when talking triangles... everytime is all about getting the girl/guy to fall for them....

Hope your meter goes up even if I don't ship them.... sucks when our expectations over a couple is low.

I hate characters/ships but I just don't get how people can just cross the line and literally start talking about it like it's RL, or offending the actor/actress that plays them, it's ridiculous!!
I can say that when I personally hate the actor/actress I have a hard time liking the character they play. But the other way around, it's just something I don't get it.... like me, I LOVE Phoebe, but I just can't stand Hayley, and what people did to her before the show started was just beyond pathetic.
That's why I say, some people just have no sense of reality.

Well, I haven't hide the fact that the writers are screwing Elijah's character for me since TO started.... so yeah, the baby/Hayley interest is just weird and out of nowhere IMO


No need to apology.... it was just an example. There were potential over there (imo) until season 3 where everything just got so messed up that it just became impossible.
that's how I think the writers are going to go with sophie/Elijah and it makes me sad

bonnie51

No doubt about it! And its just poor and lazy writing to do that and you end up ruining the characters when you just let it be about hooking up with someone.

It might. Just have to see what happens... but part of me will be ticked if it happens by the end of the season, all the same , LMAO... I am complex.

Because its not realistic, IMO, for that to happen either... too much development IMO needs to happen first.I just hate feeling like I'm so far behind the ball (H/E) that its never going to catch up.

Exactly. There have been some characters i have seriously hated and not in a love-to-hate way but never sent mail, ranted to their twitter, etc. I can't imagine being an actor and seeing / hearing / receiving that kind of stuff. I have too thin of skin to be able to do that. I'd either go crazy or snap and hunt the suckers down.

Yeah, the H/E was kind of out of no where, IMO, too... and the baby thing. Ok, Elijah wants his family back so I get that he wants Klaus to accept the kid. But he's almost become obsessed / possessive of it.


Yeah. I actually like Bonnie/Jeremy but the writing on that show is so bad I can't even really enjoy it.

Si_Crazy

Nothing to add here

I know what you mean.... well let's wait and see what the writers will come up with and how they will handle everything (there are a LOT of loose ends for them to work on)

Me neither... I will rant about my opinions for loving or hating a character in my own blog, but I will never send the actor/actress those... it's opinions, everybody is entitled to one, but it's all about respect.
I do have to say that from the moment a person decides to become a public person and be an actor/actress as a profession they need to know how to handle bad critic (they should either take the high road and just don't dignify the haters with an answer of just not interact with fans at all). I can say that I lost all respect for one actress that I used to LOVE because she couldn't handle the negative opinions of fans and just became a real online bully instigating fans that liked her to bully the ones that didn't. No respect there!

To me the problem is, Elijah wants the family together, he is always saying that, but at the same time he treats Rebekah as nothing.... She said she was leaving and all he said was "then go", how is that keeping the family together?!! And I won't even bring Kol and Finn into the discussion.... so like I said, the writers are making him sound like an hypocrite.

The fault is all because of the lack of good writing

Now back to the point.... Elijah/Sophie apparently are going to suffer from the usual lack of good writing curse

bonnie51

sadly it seems so... I do hope they interact again soon though. They have their own issues that they have to work through ie Agnes, etc.

**Anna**

I remember last spring after the 4x20 episode everyone was making fun of how originals (especially Elijah) will be changing diapers instead of scheming and I defended them. It's so sad that while Elijah's is not changing diapers (yet) his storyline was utterly lame focusing solemnly on one girl. I guess we should be happy at least Klaus keeps his heart more or less closed off, and doesn't become all mushy and soft.


Si the fans back lash was like 99 % from klaroliners. Both leah and phoebe got so much hate because they were positioned as klaus' potential LI. I know it's hard to admit that your fandom is super nasty and rude but unfortunately it's true. You are like literally the only klaroline fan i can think of that isn't a hater.
If it makes it better, right now Klayley fans are sort of winning the second place for being haters.
Anyways let's not go off topic.


All the recent spoilers make me really hopeful for the possible Elijah/Sophie, my hope will die if