BlueWolf

maplezbear

Logan

She came to Michaels finale viewing party last night

Having Tony be the father of Zivas child was only fitting ..

With the killing off of Ziva character , hey it was only what 3 seasons since she left . Pretty much everyone knew she wasn't coming back to the show . On criminal minds show last season they killed of a character who would not bet on the show since season three at was 7 seasons since the actor left the show.

baelfire24

I was disappointed that they killed off Ziva, but they made up for it when they introduced Tali.

maplezbear

I was a bit disappointed they killed Ziva off too, but was not surprised. I had thought that's what they were doing at the end of last episode. I thought it was great that they made up for it though with them having a child together.

shinebrighterxx

Obviously watching the episode will give me better perspective of things. For me while we knew Cote wouldn't come back I don't like that they closed that window. They didn't want to kill her off when she left but they were ok with it when Michael left? doesn't sit right in my mind. I can understand Cote's feelings of not being satisfied with it or whatever she's said recently over it when saying she wouldn't be returning for it but idk, I don't want to judge things too much for another few months when I eventually get to see it but its hard not to

Love that she was there

BlueWolf

After some days now and after the recent TVLine? Article in which Gary Galsberg said that Zivas fate is still up in the air...i dont know what to think.

The episode had simply too many holes to be a 100% definite end for Ziva, having him say that this all was planned that way...it gives some hope.

But at the same time it shows again how little respect Gary Glasberg has for Tiva fans.
It is keeping us on a short leash and whenever he feels like it...he can jank on it.

He baited the fans again and left still enough open to come back to it.
I dont know if im happy that Ziva is still alive(i will not believe it until 100% confirmed)
When we have been robbed again from a happy ending.
Im a bit bitter and will probably stay it forever...until they give me a picture or anything that shows Ziva, Tony and Tali reunited and happy.

room to breathe

That would be the perfect ending for all Tiva fans .

maplezbear

I didn't read that article until after the fact, but it is nice it gives a little hope as well as that line too. But it does seem that G.G. is kinda stinging the fans along, which I don't think is right.

And actually, now that I am thinking about this more, how did Tali get out of the house if Ziva was supposedly sleeping (that's what they said, right?)when this attack happened? So maybe it was just a set up and she is still alive. Just makes you wonder...

BlueWolf

Yes, at this point its just downright cruel.
Its not funny or anything.

For 8 years he baited fans over and over again, promised and teased things he didnt kept.
While i appreciate that they gave us a loophole that is more then just hopeless grasping straws...it is not right.

This is why i turned away from NCIS after Ziva left.
They are not commited to big changes unless they have to.
The show barely evolves unless they absolutly need it to.

Tiva is probably the biggest explenation for this.
They made enough steps forward to make us believe this goes somewhere, but let themself enough room to drag it out as long as they want.

Personally i think this shows again how little respect they have for the fans.

Anyway, im sorry for my little rant...i didnt thought anything Tiva related would ever affect me...but i guess you can never get rid of a Tiva fan.

maplezbear

It's ok for you rant. Sometimes you have to let it out I completely understand your frustration though

s30480

You gotta believe what you gotta believe, I read the Glasberg interview, too and I believe the pic was a hint and they will meet in Paris when everything is safe *lol* dreams can come true

Stars Fade

in my mind, ziva david's alive. no body. Tony said "have" and "loves" in present tense. no one could dare change my mind about that.

shinebrighterxx

There's a high chance we'll never know so if there's hope then it is best to hold onto that & say that they will meet again one day

looking at the stars

like you said Chelle. Even if we never find out, I'll hold onto that.