But either one of them served to show Jennie and Tori how utterly ridiculous they were. On top of the general "WTF were you raised in a barn who behaves like this".

Probably a reason why either of those two have much a career at this point.

I think so, honestly. Their reputation became legendary. Who wants to deal with that? Versus Jason and Luke worked somewhat more consistently.

No one, especially when you aren't all that talented.

Tori was often shockingly bad, lol. Jennie was more..one note. Very unimpressive. Honestly, Shannen could act circles around both of them.

She really can

Shannen was no innocent victim, but she also wasn't the Big Bad.

Couldn't she very direct when it calling things out?

Yes. There was a general thought that Shannen will say something to your face and Jennie will say it behind your back.

Prefer the first option obviously

Yep, me too. Say what you mean and mean what you say.

More real that way

At least everyone knows where they stand that way.

Exactly

I think Jennie got bolder later, although she still didn't sound terribly straightforward, but it took years for the media to acknowledge Jennie had been part of the problem.