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Carlie06 04-24-2008 08:22 PM

Dudes. What a freaking ep.

Sayid + Nadia! :love: Then, Nadia dies. :bawl: Rollercoaster. I couldn't be happy that they found each other again because hello....she's dead. Poor Sayid. I liked that they showed how Ben and Sayid became a team AND I believe Ben orchestrated it all. He wanted Sayid and no better way than to give the guy who killed his wife on a silver platter ready to be killed. Again I say, poor Sayid.

Sawyer was freaking awesome tonight! :love: Gotta say, I heart me some Sawyer&Claire. "You alright, sweetheart?" :in_love: And the Surley action. "You hurt a curly hair on his head....I'll kill you." Loves.

Bernard pwns all.

Ben is more heartless than I had originally thought. I had penned Alex as his weakness. I was wrong. I wasn't a huge fan of Alex, but it was sad nonetheless. Especially Ben's goodbye. BUT he could've stopped it. Whatev.

Emerson rocked it tonight.

Touldengal 04-24-2008 08:26 PM

i dont really think he could have.
i think he was trying to do the best thing he could and this was probably his best bet.
either way, she would have been killed and he knew that.
and apparently there are rules and they've been changed. i wonder what that was about.

blue4815162342 04-24-2008 08:29 PM

wow, i forgot (okay no i didn't) how much i Love lost!

i can't blieve they actually just killed alex :cry: , i was expacting them to not really shoot her, just as ben thought they would. how did ben control the smoke thing.

as for ben's flashforward very interesting, and so sad about nadia :cry:. also he cannot kill penny!

my favorite part, was sawyer. i loved how he cares about everyone. how he went out to save claire and his line about harming a curly hair on hurley's head. i think assuming that he is still on the island that he is going to be incharge.

i can't wait for next week! i'm so glad that lost is back.

decem 04-24-2008 08:35 PM

:nod: I took Ben's heartless comment about how she meant nothing to him as if he was trying to convince them that killing her wouldn't have an effect on him, hoping they would let her go. Either way I think they would have killed her.

Elleg 04-24-2008 08:45 PM

Hugo + Baby Erin = ADORABLE

Elleg 04-24-2008 08:47 PM

Hugo + Baby Erin = ADORABLE

cherrie_x 04-24-2008 08:48 PM

So the island used to belong to Charles Widmore and Ben took over???
Ben cannot kill Penny!!!

Monique19 04-24-2008 08:48 PM

Erin? I think you mean Aaron.

I don't think Ben meant it as heartless comment, whatever there rules was, it probably meant he and Widmore don't hurt each other's family or they do a bluff when it comes to one another's family. As I said, everyone is a pawn in this war between them, it is causing innocent's their lives.

Elleg 04-24-2008 08:50 PM

Did anyone else notice how at the Hotel in Tunisia when the lady looked up the name Ben gave her attitude changed? What does a prefered customer mean? How many times has he been there? I wanna know what note was written next to his name in the ledger!

Touldengal 04-24-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Monique19 (Post 22454571)
Erin? I think you mean Aaron.

I don't think Ben meant it as heartless comment, whatever there rules was, it probably meant he and Widmore don't hurt each other's family or they do a bluff when it comes to one another's family. As I said, everyone is a pawn in this war between them, it is causing innocent's their lives.

yeah, that sounds about right.
i knew it had something to do with that scene.
i felt so bad for him there.

Logan 04-24-2008 08:58 PM

how funny it is that all these past weeks it has been teased ,IN TV GUIDE, about claire being the one who gets killed. Nope , big swerve and Ben saying she isn't my daughter and the guys kills he right away .

I am really understanding that this is time travel . Ok Sayid says he had been looking for Penny for 7 years but prior to that when Ben was at the hotel he asked the date and year.

October 2005 ........ OK last season Jack heard from Ben that Red sox finally won the world series that would make it 2004.

The whole unleashing of the smog monster was not at all what i expected . I thought he was just going to escape leaving Sawer. Locke Hurley and Claire +baby to fend for them selves.

Love the way Bernard knew morse code and proved the guy wrong.

Ben and his ways so very interesting how a character who originally was only going to be one like 7 episodes became a main character .

Glad i DVR this show, I need to watch it again. Dam new Grey's, New Smallville and Lost . I feel like i am back in March mid season Tv watching form.

I miss my 24 :(

Carlie06 04-24-2008 09:04 PM

I just didn't think Ben would let Alex be killed. I was very surprised. I don't think it took away his love for her, but just the sheer fact that he didn't do anything was shocking to me.

Touldengal 04-24-2008 09:05 PM

lol, that's intense.
i definitely need to rewatch the entire series to understand more, lol.

earthangel72 04-24-2008 09:16 PM

Quote:

I just didn't think Ben would let Alex be killed.
I honestly think Ben thought Alex COULDN'T be killed. After she died he said "He changed the game." I think HE is probably Jacob, perhaps he made a deal with Ben that Alex couldn't die as long as he played by his rules, but Ben must have done something to upset Jacob.

I also suspect Ben might have been behind Nadias death.....just an inkling.

Carlie06 04-24-2008 09:19 PM

Oooooh, I like.

Very possible.

Yeah. I'm not convinced he was behind but I know, for sure, he got Sayid exactly where he wanted him. He egged it on.


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