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Originally Posted by Pinwheel (View Post) Agreed. Mark started to give way too much screentime to secondary characters and I thought it hurt the quality of the show. Take Mouth, for example. I really liked him the first few seasons. He worked well as a side character, but in the fourth season they spent so much unnecessary time on him and his women problems, while giving little focus to NH's pregnancy. It was so annoying. I think Mark often forgot or just flat out ignored the fact that a majority of fans were tuning in to watch the core characters. Most of us weren't interested in the drama of Mouth, or Millie, or Mia, or Chase..etc.

Agreed, I loved Mouth when it was a good friend to Brooke, Peyton, Lucas, Skills, etc.. but I hated him in the later seasons when it got way too much focus as a character, especially it came to his love life.

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Originally Posted by Pinwheel (View Post) Agreed. Mark started to give way too much screentime to secondary characters and I thought it hurt the quality of the show. Take Mouth, for example. I really liked him the first few seasons. He worked well as a side character, but in the fourth season they spent so much unnecessary time on him and his women problems, while giving little focus to NH's pregnancy. It was so annoying. I think Mark often forgot or just flat out ignored the fact that a majority of fans were tuning in to watch the core characters. Most of us weren't interested in the drama of Mouth, or Millie, or Mia, or Chase..etc.

I completely agree w/ this.. I stop care about him when S4 come around.. I was like sigh..

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I stopped caring about Mouth in S4 as well.

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I think that he was really obsessed for not getting a girl in that season, right? Well, I can say almost all seasons..

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I hated that he pressured Shelly into having sex.

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Oh man, I hate it and she has to do it bec she wants to or feel sorry for him.. Ugh..

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Thinking that he deserved to have sex just because he was an 'good guy' made me hated a little bit.

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I hate it when he said that he's good guy meaning like he deserves to have sex.. Ugh, that's so worse than guy who's *******..

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Lol true

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That's why I don't stand him..

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Same

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However, I wish that they can do better development for both Nathan/Peyton's friendship..

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Thinking that he deserved to have sex just because he was an 'good guy' made me hated a little bit.

Exactly. Or when Millie cheated on him whatever season that was. She lost her virginity to Owen, I think, and I get that Mouth was upset about it, but he acted like Millie's virginity belonged to him. It was so sexist. They really made him a jerk at times.

However, I wish that they can do better development for both Nathan/Peyton's friendship..

I agree. They had some nice friendship moments, just not enough.

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^ Yeah I hated that as well, but I was definitely over Mouth at that point.

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Originally Posted by Pinwheel (View Post) I agree. They had some nice friendship moments, just not enough.

Yeah even tho their friendship don't make me like them, I just like eh bec it just about moments than seeing them as actual friends..