xandadiuana

So I see Lexi is still bitter about LP, huh?! I feel you.

But hey! No. They don't sleep in each other's arms every single episode! I wish! LOL The cuddling scene was actually a good surprise because we don't see that happen very often.
This was fun to read.

But as for popularity awards, do you honestly think those count that much? It's just the online people and from what I gather, LP fans are really not that fond of those polls and such, and most of the time we don't even bother to vote, while the other ship group makes campaign in their places and feel proud of re-voting as many times as the site allows them to. What does it matter then if a couple receives 2000 votes, when that represents the same 50 people voting over and over again?


As one of the LP fans that expressed this frustation, I just wanted to make clear I don't think that's the reason at all. My complain has more to do with poor writing and other factors influencing their scenes and screentime than with their portrayal on the show. They're fine as a couple, and that's obvious imo. Because we don't see them talk so much onscreen, doesn't mean they don't. Or I'll have to assume PH don't even work together anymore, and NP forgot who each other are, and so on...

As for being worried with a S7, you're right, we are. There's a good chance Chad won't resign and that's our concern. Well that and the fact that this show will never go away. LOL

Peyton is the love of his life, the one he's expressed several times already, both consciously and uncosciously, gives his life meaning and nothing good or bad matters without her. The one whom he's about to start a family with, who's gonna be the mother of his children. I don't even need to go on. The idea that Haley is his #1, for me, with all due respect, is a little laughable. It's like saying Lucas is Haley's #1 or Brooke is Peyton's #1, and I'm sorry but no, as much as I love my BP, that's not how it is.

As for Lucas not going after Peyton in the school shooting, I'm not sure whether he did or not, because it wasn't clear. All I know is he didn't go after Haley either. Initially he just wanted to stop Nathan from going back in and when he couldn't, he joined his brother. It could be argued he wanted to protect Nathan, and it could also be argued it hit him Peyton was there too. But what is clear is that the minute he saw blood on the floor, his priority immediatelly became finding Peyton. And he wasn't even aware of his feeling for her back then, which is telling imo.


Lucas lovers forst and foremost can still be BL, LP or LL fans/haters, so what they want for him can still be biased. Not saying it's always the case, just sayin'.

soulmatejunkee

Nice

It was funny!!
LP as babysitters who where hopelessly swamped. Well, maybe it was little to much to let 2 5-year-boys winning a poker game. And I also don't understand why Lucas is so swamped! It wasn't the first time that Jamie was with him!

It was really great how Haley overwhelmed Lucas with the Pregnancy

Brooke and Julian - okay, I'm not totally fallen for that guy like apprently everyone else - for whatever reason! But it's okay, lets hope they give them a good storyline. It's nice that Brooke is with someone again and is doing some hot stuff. And it was funny that everyone saw a date while Brooke and Julian just called it a meeting!! I hope he's not the next flop!

Mia and Chase - not that I needed it, but the end was cute. When he left and then returned and kissed her, that was nice. I don't see how this couple is necessary, but... I don't understand a lot of things on that show, so... BTW Mia looks a lot better this season than the last season!!

Milli and Mouth - are annoying, sorry. So, why is SHE cheating on HIM! That is ooc for the girl we knew since Season 5! If they wanted to do a cheating-story, let him cheat on her! It's so ridiculous, we're talking about Milli! I don't like that storyline, but maybe it's because I don't care for Mouth anymore.

Nathan and Haley .... and Jamie! It was to be expected that Jamie ran in the second they kissed, wasn't it? And it was also to be expected that he totally defeats the second possible kiss, wasn't it? And it was also to be expected that Naley don't want to be alone when the kid is with a babysitter, wasn't it? It was cute in the beginning, it was cute in the end - but somewhere in the middle there should have been the Naley-sex we're waiting for since Season 3!!

This is a TV-Couple which is constantly a couple and doesn't have sex - sex sells, can anyone please tell this to Mr. Schwahn?

Actually I feel bad for the LPers. She's pregnant, so you can be sure... Sex is gone now!

Manu9

I think every opinion is biased in some way. Anyway, the fact many of Lucas fans, those that love him first and foremost, don't like any of BL, LP and LL, speak loud. There's a reason why we don't like any. I think it's easier to support one of those relationships if you are first a B/P/L (L as in Lindsay) fan, because you focus on the girl and of course you're gonna think she's the love of Lucas' life. But from the point of view of someone who loves Lucas first, it's hard to support any of those relationships. They all have positive and negative aspects and even though the show is carrying on the point Peyton's the one for Lucas, there have been things on the show that can be used by BLers or LLers to validate their ship. I think it's ridicolous and a clear proof of how much the writing on the show sucks when it comes to Lucas love life. I see how BL fans might interpret things in a way that show Brooke is Lucas' one and LP fans' interpret things in a way that prove Peyton's the one. But as someone that doesn't care much about either BL or LP (or LL), I can clearly see big holes in the portraying of both those "supposed" great loves.

xandadiuana

I do agree it's hard for any hardcore OTH fan not to be biased in some way, Manu. But the way the question was presented, it felt like Lucas fans first and foremost somehow could have a better judgement in regards to who he should end up with. And I don't think that's the case.

It's true there's Lucas fans thinking he should end up alone, but it's also truth tons of LP and BL fans/haters also love Lucas first and foremost. So I don't think it's so telling that there's people who dislikes all of his previous relationships.

Moonlight10

Personally, I cannot support a ship if I'm not a fan of both characters.

Maybe_Tomorrow

I think i only have two ships where i like both characters individually....

Motoko Ayoama

It's pretty easy for me to ship two characters even when I don't love one of the two. I usually root more for girls and guys are then just ok characters but I'm not dedicated to them.

xandadiuana

I tend to get annoyed at the ones in the middle of the triangles.

weens

If I may intervene and I totally agree with what you are saying by the way, Lucas didn't go after Haley because he knew that Haley had Nathan and that he has taken his place for many things in her life. And knowing that Peyton could have been hurt too, well they split up and went to look for the girls they loved. That is life and when you fall in love the person you fall in love with becomes your #1 and unfortunalely your best friends come in second.

eragon194

To be very honest, just as bias can be assumed for shippers, the bias by the above can also be presented. Though I will not bring it up.

xandadiuana

Well, I'm stating what I've seen not only on this forum, but other places as well. You can argue I'm wrong and disagree, but you can't call it bias. For the simple fact that I'm not making this up.

BTW, I'm not one of these people. I'm a LP fan, yes. And I used to like both characters almost the same(still not the same!), but not anymore ever since last season. I still love Lucas though, but Peyton has always been my favorite.

Maybe_Tomorrow

This bias talk has lost me. I have no clue what it is people are getting at.

LOL, i tend to dislike the person in the middle too because there always so indecisive, for so long. It's like geez, just pick a girl/boy already. It's like, i loved PJo, but i liked Pacey way more than Joey, especially with the going between business. Triangles tend to destory the character of the person being fought over for me.

xandadiuana

There were times when I wasn't sure why I was still rooting for PJo, because I was so annoyed at her and thought he deserved better.

To be honest, had they not destroyed Pacey/Andie in S3(or was it 4?), I don't think I would have rooted for PJo.

Beautiful Blur

As much as I loved Pacey/Joey, Pacey/Andie were my #1! Sorry for butting in. lol

K.S. 888

First, of course this was fun to read and why, because I wrote it. IMO it is always a pleasure to read my posts and you should commend yourself for your impeccable taste

Second, BL fans stuffing the ballot box. NO, Say it Ain't So. Well, if that is the case then in any event I like and admire it. On Fan Forum, there are a core group of fans that are still totally committed to BL and that is through a long dry arid spell, to me that demands and commands respect. I applaud the DEDICATION of the BL fanbase. Dedication to me is paramount and is the most important thing in life, it takes dedication to still ship a couple that has had no romantic scenes since S3. BL Fandom

Third, There are two things that you and I have always touched on and agreed with in previous posts. One, S5 was akin to torture to the LP fanbase. And two, LL was blech and taken way way too far by Mark S. I do not say this to be snarky, but I really thought that LP would have far greater and more meaningful scenes after 06x01. See, I am an OTH fan first before anything and if for NOW, it is LP make the scenes decent. LP talking 70,000.00 times over the phone and then chatting about ice cream and or the clicker for the tv set has to be a letdown for your fandom. IMO, these scenes have no zip or vigor, they are just IDK, there, you know?? Like or hate LP you cannot deny their scenes from 01x01 through say 01x05 had fire and energy, S6, not so much. Maybe you are right maybe it is the writing, it just seems Mark never knows what to do with them when they finally come together.

Four-CMM will sign on for S7, but IMO you have other things to worry about