shonuff

In real life, a baby, particularly a first baby, probably doesn't need to constantly be addressed by name. It's not like you'd be saying, for example, "hey Bella, come over here"--you don't call her by name for her own benefit at first, and there's no other baby around that she needs distinguishing from unless she's at a daycare or the like. Parents would be more likely to say "don't wake up the baby" than "don't wake up Bella." and they may drag the "can't decide on a name" thing out for several episodes.

jbshmdfb

It just shows the show has zero priorities in planning. Nothing new really

TVFan221

Exactly, it would have been a great idea to maintain buzz about the show during the ridiculously long winter hiatus by giving the fans something to think about rather than that stupid couple poll that of course had D/R and J/A first and everyone else had like 2%

jbshmdfb

they are naming the baby in 318. But won't be chosen by fans till they are filming the finale, that is the main issue for a few of us.

Cristofle

This has never been the case with any of my friends/relatives who have children. IIRC, even between the episode where she's born and the next episode, there's a time jump of a few weeks, and there will probably be more after that. If they haven't named their child in several weeks, they shouldn't HAVE a child. I've never known caring parents to never reference their children by name. Names ARE important, and they're important immediately. Not in a few days, necessarily, but if you can't be bothered to mention your child's name more than once or twice in the first couple MONTHS of her life (or come up with one at all)- are you even seeing this baby as human, lol? Yes, people say "Don't wake the baby", but not PRIMARILY. I've NEVER known ANYONE who didn't regularly reference their baby by name irl.

I don't need to see the baby onscreen all the time. I really don't. That's a hassle. But I also don't give one flying eff about Juliette OR Avery's career if their newborn child is going to come off as afterthought onscreen, and that seems almost inevitable at this point, if she hasn't been named by the writers up to the point of writing the damn finale several episodes later. And I say this as a viewer who isn't even that invested in any characters BUT Juliette or Avery, but one thing I won't be blind to in my faves is crappy parenting.

shonuff

But just because the VIEWERS don't hear them call her by name doesn't mean they never DO it. It's a TV show, so we're not assuming the snippets we get are the only interaction they are having with their baby, right? On screen, the few times they are likely to refer to her in the few scenes we get that have reference to her in them, they could get away with a few references to "the baby". I don't think we can infer a lifetime of crappy parenting from this. How about "my daughter"? That's another way to refer to her without saying a name. I'm just saying I don't think it's that hard a workaround.

soapbubbles511

Oh I'm fine with not actually seeing the baby 99% of the time. She can be offscreen asleep or with the nanny or whatever while Juliette and Avery be mostly talking about/doing other things. But even still I don't understand not using the poor kid's name for like 3 episodes

Static Waves

this is what I don't understand. That would have been the perfect time for this poll (esp when people were complaining about the fact that Juliette had nothing to do. Distracting fans with a Juliette related poll might have eased the blow there).

I want to believe that Deb is lying and it's rigged (and I partially don't believe her tbh. I still think it is rigged to one name). Because parents not referring to their child by their name is a whole new level of horrible parenting.

Cristofle

I think if she has no name in the script up to five episodes later, it IS that hard of a workaround. I expect babies to rarely actually BE onscreen. It's a pain in the ass to film with babies. I do not expect them to only mention their child's name once or twice an episode. That's not acceptable behavior from new parents. It's just not. If those are the only snippets of their lives/parenting we get, Juliette and Avery will look incompetent at best and uncaring at worst.

samantha24

OMG really this is a tv show so i doubt they will be doing the same thing they do in real life babies tend to fall to the background after the initial joy of having them i can't remember the last time snow or charming mentioned neal on ouat to be honest i don't think any show mentions there kids until they are old enough to have s/l of there own so i don't expect to hear her talk about her 24/7 the way she would in real life

Cristofle

Dude, Tammi, I cannot even. I was saying this elsewhere, but I had a client (I have a part time job as a pet sitter) who almost never referenced his dog by name. Every time he booked a visit, every time he called or texted (which was rare other than booking the visit unless I contacted him), every note he wrote me with instructions, he only ever called her "the dog". "Feed the dog this". "Take the dog out at this time". "Don't give the dog treats". "Don't play fetch with the dog longer than X minutes". I think I can count on one hand the number of times he actually referenced this poor dog (who was very sweet, and her name was Anna, lol) by her name, in the year or so I worked for him. I HATED THIS GUY SO MUCH, I can't even speak of it, it still makes me so mad. And this was a DOG, not a human being. WTF kind of new parents don't mention their child's NAME more than once in a blue moon? What in the....?

jbshmdfb

If it is rigged can it be rigged to be Cadence I know Bella is the popular one right now but I can't stop thinking of twilight and of dogs with that name It's not a bad name at all though, just overused because of twilight.

Static Waves

I just refuse to believe that the writers are actually this dumb to not have new parents refer to their child by name for three episodes. That's like... cruel.

Cristofle

If she still has no name, at best she'll be referenced by her name like...once an episode for at least three episodes after she's born. Because some of this they've already filmed, and if they have to back in and edit in her name, they can't do that more than once or twice. And if she's that much of an afterthought to them, they shouldn't have had this kid :/

shonuff

Do you really think that there will even be occasion for them to be talking about her on screen that much? If that's what we WANT them to talk about, history shows it probably won't happen. I mean, I'd a lot rather hear Juliette talk about her daughter and say her name over and over than watch the "Luke Wheeler and his past, current and future finances, ex-wives and girlfriends show"...but...it's Nashville!