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Old 12-23-2018, 03:59 PM
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It's a ship picture, that makes it about a ship, regardless of what NBC's intentions were About the show would involve more characters than just a couple. There absolutely are Grace/Danny shippers out there, makes no sense to me, but they exist.

Old picture, so not a spoiler. Doesn't give away anything that may happen in the future. It doesn't harm the thread, but it's not a spoiler so it's kind of out of place. On a busier thread it would likely push the conversation away from actual spoilers. I've seen it happen way too many times.
Maybe it is a spoiler that they get back together? I have no idea why NBC picked that photo. They used a couple on the SVU one too, but I don't watch that show, so I have no idea if that is a ship picture. If it was a fan made image I might agree. But, it's the official image NBC decided to use. I don't think they thought about it starting a ship war. They are probably not aware of who ships who. Maybe they feel that Ben and Grace are the heart of the family? Maybe it was the first photo they grabbed. Maybe they are Gracen fans?
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I guess I do not understand the need to police the Spoiler thread instead of letting the moderators of this thread speak up if they think of is getting off track. “Ship” things are often used to represent a show. And to most members of the General Audience, to whom the ad is aimed, they see the currently only married couple at the heart of the Stone Family. Not a ship war.
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Old 12-23-2018, 04:05 PM
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Ship things don't represent a show. Imo, very few of the collection NBC released actually represent their shows.

Mods can't be in every thread all the time, and they're not always going to know if something is a spoiler or not because they often have to check threads for shows they don't watch. It's not too much to ask for us to stick to spoilers.

Considering the way the show has been played out, I don't think anyone is supposed to see the married couple as the heart of the family, the siblings are, but they shouldn't be solely used either because they alone do not represent the whole show. Doubt NBC put much thought in it at all, tbh, probably just went with the happiest pictures they could find. The SVU one isn't a couple but doesn't represent the show as a whole either. This discussion doesn't belong in this thread, though
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Old 12-23-2018, 04:25 PM
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They quoted a song lyric as a pun and most likely wanted a romantic picture with it. They were not going to post something promoting adultery, so they chose the only non adulterous couple in the main cast. Doubt they see it ship related.

And yes the siblings are the heart of the show. One could argue Ben and Grace are/were the heart of the family since every family scene happened at their home. Nor am I sure that it has played out that they are completely finished yet. The show is not over. I keep my options open on canon pairings on every show until the end, and go with the flow.

We are going to have to agree to disagree about it.
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Old 12-23-2018, 04:28 PM
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They picked the wrong show then, because this show is not romantic, and I wouldn't want it to be. It doesn't matter at all, but I would have much preferred none of them used a couple. Couples don't make shows and it's about time networks and writers got over that idea.

I don't think they're finished yet at all. The show has pushed me to a point where I don't care how they get there, but I fully expect them to reunite. Maybe that's just wishful thinking because I want Danny gone, though.
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Old 12-23-2018, 04:42 PM
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Hopefully, this show will be around for awhile and I fully expect relationships to change. The core relationships that will likely continue to be important are Ben/Michaela/Olive/Cal, because those are the blood relationships. The couples will likely get together and break up many times, but I highly doubt the network thinks about ships unless someone forces them to do so. I don't really even think about ships. Danny is an obstacle to fulfilling his role as a father. He stands as a reminder that Ben lost time with is daughter.

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To put it in some context, for Thanksgiving NBC picked a food to represent each show and they picked cornbread for Manifest. I don't think they put much thought into it.
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Old 12-23-2018, 04:50 PM
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Urgh I hope they're not on/off repeatedly. I hope the writers make their minds up early on and focus on the real story. Danny better not last past season 1. He can have a relationship with not his daughter Olive if he must, but I don't want to see it.

Networks do think about ships sometimes. Just this year NBC spent weeks using ships alone to promote the shows. It was annoying, I unfollowed all three shows official accounts because of it. It depends on what they think they can gain from it, if they're trying to promote or just do something fun to keep the current fans talking etc. I think when it's an entire project devoted to one show, they are definitely thinking about the ships.
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Old 12-23-2018, 09:56 PM
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Urgh I hope they're not on/off repeatedly. I hope the writers make their minds up early on and focus on the real story. Danny better not last past season 1. He can have a relationship with not his daughter Olive if he must, but I don't want to see it.

Networks do think about ships sometimes. Just this year NBC spent weeks using ships alone to promote the shows. It was annoying, I unfollowed all three shows official accounts because of it. It depends on what they think they can gain from it, if they're trying to promote or just do something fun to keep the current fans talking etc. I think when it's an entire project devoted to one show, they are definitely thinking about the ships.
I have noticed they tend to use drama to get clicks and get people to respond. It is not my favorite thing to see though.
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Old 12-24-2018, 10:28 AM
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Per google the synopsis for episode 10

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Ben struggles to trust a journalist who wants him to participate in a Flight 828 podcast; Michaela's callings rise to a whole new level when they are accompanied by hallucinations; things get complicated when Olive invites Danny over for dinner.
New promo pics here

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nbcmanifest We're going to learn a lot more about the blood marker Saanvi found... #Manifest

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Michaela’s (Melissa Roxburgh) mystifying, next-level calling launches her on a mission that brings her relationship with Jared (J.R. Ramirez) to a head. Determined to protect his family, Ben (Josh Dallas) explores an alternate meaning to Michaela’s calling that leads him to a new alliance and a powerful new adversary. Cal’s (Jack Messina) struggle with Ben’s absence from home forces the Stones into an agonizing confrontation that could alter the family’s fabric forever.
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I feel awful for Cal and Olive. How can the fabric be altered more than it already has been?
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Right? The flight altered the fabric forever and then the separation made it even worse. What’s left? Cal leaving with Ben while Olive and Grace go with Danny? And Cal refusing to talk to them?
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Right? The flight altered the fabric forever and then the separation made it even worse. What’s left? Cal leaving with Ben while Olive and Grace go with Danny? And Cal refusing to talk to them?
That is the only thing i can think of that could further split the the family. Olive and Cal need to be together.
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Considering Ben and Mick are living in a motel, I can't see Cal going with Ben.
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Considering Ben and Mick are living in a motel, I can't see Cal going with Ben.
I cannot either. I just cannot figure out what would alter the family fabric more than they have already been altered.
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Maybe Ben confronting Danny pushes Olive further away?
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